TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Yes, again - we've established that already.
Evolution doesn't include a designer and gravity doesn't include graviton pixies.
Yes. What's the problem?
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How do you detect "design"?
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Evolution doesn't include a designer and gravity doesn't include graviton pixies.
Yes. What's the problem?
That is the truth that is transparent. That's why they only launch personal attacks and disqualifications.
I was reading a certain dialogue where a participant asks how to know if he has to support someone for telling the truth, and the answer he received is that if the person does not belong to his group, nothing he says is acceptable. It is blatant prejudice; Either you accept their point of view or they are going to mistreat you in every possible way.
That's the plan behind the plan: psychological warfare. Take care of yourself and be strong. Trust in God, because the wicked will disappear in a short time, as the Scripture says:
Psal. 37:7 Keep silent before Jehovah
And wait expectantly for him.
Do not be upset by the man
Who succeeds in carrying out his schemes.
8 Let go of anger and abandon rage;
Do not become upset and turn to doing evil.
9 For evil men will be done away with,
But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth
10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;
You will look at where they were,
And they will not be there.
11 But the meek will possess the earth,
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
12 The wicked man plots against the righteous;
He grinds his teeth at him.
13 But Jehovah will laugh at him,
For He knows that his day will come.
14 The wicked draw their swords and bend their bows
To bring down the oppressed and the poor,
To slaughter those whose way is upright.
15 But their sword will pierce their own heart;
Their bows will be broken.
16 Better is the little of the righteous one
Than the abundance of many wicked ones.
17 For the arms of the wicked will be broken,
But Jehovah will support the righteous.
PS: When I go around the world talking to others about the promises of God, I focus on those who have a good attitude, because they are honest toward the truth.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Considering your lack of objectivity, it is unfortunately necessary for the definition to be discussed.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
More projection and a blind reference to CYA your accusation.
Any time you actually want to present some defensible evidence, we will discuss.
I think you do need this place, none of your echo chambers give you any satisfaction in your desire for attention.
Sadly some settle for any attention at all rather than modifying behaviour to receive positive attention.
There is a 3 year old who cries and then laughs next door to me when ever he doesn't get his way.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Well even if we are wrong, we know that you are wronger!
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Yes, indeed. Yes, it's like the knowledge is medicine that works!! And, of course, as Jesus said, people would be eating and drinking and then the end would come. Many would pay no heed to the warning signs. It makes sense to me, and I believe it:
(Berean Standard Bible) Matthew 24: Temple Destruction and Other Signs
1As Jesus left the temple and was walking away, His disciples came up to Him to point out its buildings.
2“Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
3While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
Witnessing to All Nations
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Take the preaching to an appropriate forum.
leroy
Well-Known Member
Straw man……………..what I said is that the data inserted in the QR generator could be designed or non designed
Why do you insist in this dishonest approach?..........why do you keep misrepresenting what I said?While your "method" can only recognize a QR code as a manufactured / designed thing, if it actually works.
If not, apparantly a QR code in your universe is indistinguishable from a random rock produced by a natural process.
All I am saying is that the data inserted in the QR generator could be designed or non-designed.
If the QR opens a website…………..then it (the data) was obviously designed.
Why is it so hard for you to grant this obvious and uncontroversial truth?
leroy
Well-Known Member
I wonder why?That's asking a miracle. It just doesn't happen in this forum.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Which tells me you don't know anything...lol
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Is this your way of telling us you're a bot?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
because -- that is what the Bible indicates. You will believe as you do, and others believe as they do, in opposition to each other. Now, since some of us believe in God, I will wait for Him and I believe He will determine outcomes for each and every person.
The reason why is more mundane than that.
This website is been compromised; it's not a place for free debate anymore.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Not directly related.
But if a computer(designed) runs a QR program (designed) with QR code also designed, how does that relate to the universe as such. For the uiverse what is the computer, the program and the code?
The question to debate is HOW TO DETECT DESIGN?
I wonder what's the real purpose of posting a debate about that. Is the thread's author really interested in how to identify that something was designed or not?
The entire Universe shows design, because it is kept functioning under immovable laws, so it was originally made with purpose. Something that serves a purpose and remains capable of serving that purpose can be considered designed, in my opinion.
I wonder what's the real purpose of posting a debate about that. Is the thread's author really interested in how to identify that something was designed or not?
The entire Universe shows design, because it is kept functioning under immovable laws, so it was originally made with purpose. Something that serves a purpose and remains capable of serving that purpose can be considered designed, in my opinion.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
So basically you are simply saying "I believe the universe is designed because it looks to me it was designed"?
What is the purpose of the universe?
leroy
Well-Known Member
If any of those QR opens a website, a menu, a video, a document etc……….then it (the information that you inserted in the QR generator) would be design.
Why?
Because it would be SC
Why would it be SC?
Because a QR with the specific codes (lettesr numbers) that open a website would have these 3 characteristics:
1 complex: many parts, (many letters, numbers etc.) and many possible combinations.
2 specified: they are organized in a pattern that can be independently known or identified (it opens a web site)
3 the laws of nature, don’t favor useful QRs that open websites over random noise.
In other words, there are many possible combinations of letters and numbers that can be inserted in a QR generator…………….but of all the possible combinations………only a very very small percentage would represent a correct combination of numbers letters etc... that would open a website.
Is it really that hard to understand?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Again, now apply your method to the universe as such for a computer, program and code and explain what that has to do with the universe.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Even if the QR doesn't open a website, it was still obviously and demonstrably designed. As already pointed out.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Myself and other posters are practically begging you to engage and debate with our counterarguments. You have refused at every turn.
Sounds like some introspection is in order, rather than an admonishment of the website which very much is allowing for open and free debate. You just refuse to take part in it for some reason. The rest of us are having no problem with it.