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Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

Pogo

Pogo

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Eli G said:
Humans are not apes, great or small.

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, apes 24.

Evidently no human came out of any ape.
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not so.
\Chromosomal fusion occurs in about 1 in 1000 live births. It's believed that a common human-chimpanzee ancestor had two of its chromosomes fuse together a few million years ago. Chromosome 21 is involved in 50% of these translocations, followed by chromosome 14 (33.4%) and chromosome 13 (14.1%). Involvement of chromosomes 15 and 22 in Robertsonian translocations is uncommon (1.9% and 0.6%, respectively).
 
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Eli G

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It seems like they schedule the bots for a bad joke every once in a while.

If only they were funny jokes!! :sleeping:
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
McBell said:
If they really do understand evolution as well they claim to, then how is it they are always getting things wrong...
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Humans you seem to say are monkeys, but monkeys are not humans...because scientists say there is an unknown Common Ancestor somewhere, and humans evolved from that unknown Common Ancestor. So how about bonobos? Would you know if humans are bonobos, too? Hey, here's one...do you or scientists think bonobos are chimpanzees?"
"We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor. All apes and monkeys share a more distant relative, which lived about 25 million years ago." Comparing Chimp, Bonobo and Human DNA | AMNH
 
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Eli G

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They use to speak of thousands of common ancestors... although they have not found a single one of them.
I call them "the uncles that no one knows." ;)
 
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Eli G

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Those common ancestors only live in their fantasy stories. You can read one of those stories to convince children in post#717.

If you look at a phylogenetic tree that evolutionists usually present, you will see that the intersection points are all empty with no name at all. According to them, the photo ID or name that should go on each point is the common ancestor that no one knows about and that is only talked about in stories.

No sufficiently intelligent person is seduced by such tales or convinced that there is any reality in the theory of the evolution of species. But there are plenty of fools in the world.
 
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YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Dimi95 said:
@YoursTrue

www.yourgenome.org

Are humans still evolving?

www.yourgenome.org www.yourgenome.org

At certain point in time i belive that we will not be the same as today.

DNA is by far the most complex language that is not human.

If you stretched the DNA in one cell all the way out, it would be about 2m long and all the DNA in all your cells put together would be about twice the diameter of the Solar System.
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And that is one reason why I believe it is beyond human comprehension to understand HOW it all came about...we all have bodies. And exactly how so much information was packed into two small cells initiating the growth of a human body is likely beyond scientists' knowledge.
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Eli G said:
They use to speak of thousands of common ancestors... although they have not found a single one of them.
I call them "the uncles that no one knows." ;)
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Yes, humans cousins, aunts, uncles, even human friends (of humans) can have sexual relations and have human children. Chimpanzee considered to be "cousins" of humans have no ability to make chimp-humans.
 
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Eli G

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YoursTrue said:
Yes, humans cousins, aunts, uncles, even human friends (of humans) can have sexual relations and have human children. Chimpanzee considered to be "cousins" of humans have no ability to make chimp-humans.
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Well, the situation is that they don't reduce our family circle to great apes. We are also fish, birds, horses, and whatever you can put in the family. It's the amusement park of evolutionfancyland.
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It's not necessarily the fault of those who believe in the absolute without doubt process of evolution stemming from abiogenesis producing eventually human life. That is what they are taught and what many scientists say. That is what I learned in school and believed for a long time. But then --
1 Thessalonians 4:13 - "Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope."
 
Banach-Tarski Paradox

Banach-Tarski Paradox

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Eli G said:
I don't know how to make a bot understand that I'm not YEC without having to repeat it more times. :confused:

Evolutionists love to stretch the elastic of time, as if that would somehow change the unfathomable abyss that exists between nothingness, the inorganic, life, consciousness and art.

Maybe they should learn to perceive time in reverse; They would realize how little time they have left... No comments.
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Entropic Time (Backwards Billy Joel Parody) | A Capella Science​

 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
ChristineM said:
Because spaniels are not alsatian

From what I've read on this thread it's you pushing monkeys being human,

Humans evolved from an ape like creature that evolved from monkeys, that if you go back far enough evolved from a rodent like creature.
There, that should get you thinking.
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Nope, I'm not the one saying that humans are monkeys. I'm asking those who say here that humans are monkeys, it would be reasonable to ask if monkeys are then humans. Do you believe that humans are monkeys?
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
ChristineM said:
Because spaniels are not alsatian

From what I've read on this thread it's you pushing monkeys being human,

Humans evolved from an ape like creature that evolved from monkeys, that if you go back far enough evolved from a rodent like creature.
There, that should get you thinking.
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I looked up information about the descent or ascent considered by scientists as to how monkeys, bonobos, chimpanzees and humans evolved. Monkeys are monkeys, bonobos are bonobos, humans are humans. :) But thanks anyway. (Rodents are rodents.) You want to say that humans are rodents? That's your choice and the choice that many others will probably make.
 
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Eli G

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Evolution fanatics have never done the math. There is not enough time from the origin of the universe to the present day for inorganic material to become a supposed last universal common ancestor (LUCA) whose DNA was transformed into each successive DNA until giving rise to the entire variety of life that exists today.

It is simply a fantasy story that they suppose they must use to deny God.
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
mikkel_the_dane said:
Well, do you understand the difference between moneys and great apes. And what is an chimpanzee and what is a human?
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(1) there is a visual difference, but more importantly to scientists I suppose, (2) there is a rather small DNA difference. Do you think this means that humans are monkeys as has been asserted by some here?
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

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YoursTrue said:
That tells me something different than it apparently it tells you. But that's what makes the world go round in a manner of speaking, as it is said. As far as becoming something different (not be the same as today), I know my body relates that I'm getting older. Yet I believe what the Bible says, that one day those allowed to live by God's providence will regain vigor and strength and become healthy. Sicknesses and infirmities removed. By, of course, a wonderful God with eternal power. That is my belief.
Isaiah 65: 21They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22No longer will they build houses for others to inhabit,
nor plant for others to eat.
For as is the lifetime of a tree,
so will be the days of My people,
and My chosen ones will fully enjoy
the work of their hands.

Revelation 21:1-4
And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:
“Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man,
and He will dwell with them.
They will be His people,
and God Himself will be with them as their God.b
4‘He will wipe away every tear from their eyes,
and there will be no more death
or mourning or crying or pain,
for the former things have passed away.”
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So it's you and the OP that believe in miracles and this thread was projection on part of the OP?
I thought so in my view.
 
McBell

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Eli G said:
Evolution fanatics have never done the math. There is not enough time from the origin of the universe to the present day for inorganic material to become a supposed last universal common ancestor (LUCA) whose DNA was transformed into each successive DNA until giving rise to the entire variety of life that exists today.

It is simply a fantasy story that they suppose they must use to deny God.
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Please, by all means, show your math.
 
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