Do the Abrahamic religions have the same god in actuality?

[Gnostic Seeker]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though? Christians believe God is triune, which neither Jews or Muslims believe. Similarly, some Jews and Christians recognize Allah's pre-Islamic usage
and argue that Islam's god isn't the same.

Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually have the same god all things considered?

 

[Tali018]

Yes.
Snipit and linky:
Judaism, Christianity and Islam have in common the notion that one God governs the world and all of creation, and is omnipotent, omniscient, and everlasting. In all three religions, God is transcendent, beyond space and time, and yet acts in history and through time. The theologies of Judaism and Islam are closer to each other than either is to Christianity; both hold God to be unified and indivisible. Most, but not all, Christians today uphold that God is a unified entity with three aspects: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) who is both divine and human, and the Holy Spirit. In Islam, God (Arabic: Allah) is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians. Just as Christians adopted Jewish narratives and teachings for their own use, Muslims have adopted narratives and teachings from both of the monotheisms that came before it.
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[Saint Frankenstein]

Probably not. Even within those religions, adherents have wildly differing views on their deity.

 

[gsa]

More or less the same god with disagreements over the nature of said god and its role in human history. Significant disagreements, to be sure, particularly in the case of Christianity (when pressed I think most conservative Muslims and Jews will tell you that the Trinity is borderline polytheism and threatens the concept of divine unity, as does the incarnation concept). But I guess to me the comparative theological questions are really the key. There are significant differences, to be sure, but there are far more differences between, say, all three and the worship of a pantheon of gods in the polytheistic sense. Moreover, they all deny the existence of other gods as gods (although ancient Hebrews may have been more henotheistic). So that only leaves room for interpretation of the qualities of a single god.

 

[LuisDantas]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though? Christians believe God is triune, which neither Jews or Muslims believe. Similarly, some Jews and Christians recognize Allah's pre-Islamic usage
and argue that Islam's god isn't the same.

Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually have the same god all things considered?

If God exists, it seems clear to me that either he is usually gravely misunderstood or he is actually multifaceted in a very personal way. I sort of believe in both options, because I never doubt that the God of Abraham is a human creation.

Trinity is a severely overblown matter. If such trivial things as keyrings can sometimes appear to be one and many at the same time, one would expect God to have no problem whatsoever being both unique and indivisible while also having clear distinct manifestations. The guy is supposed to transcend existence itself, after all.

 

[Tarheeler]

I'm not a big fan of terms like "Abrahamic" or "Judeo-Christian"; I think they imply a shared bond that is rarely present.

I think that all religions, not just those three, share the same God (I am a monotheist, after all ), but we have radically different understanding of God. While both Islam and Christianity build off of Judaism, they differ enough that theological understanding can be quite difficult.

 

[gsa]

Trinity is a severely overblown matter. If such trivial things as keyrings can sometimes appear to be one and many at the same time, one would expect God to have no problem whatsoever being both unique and indivisible while also having clear distinct manifestations. The guy is supposed to transcend existence itself, after all.

I used to think that, but the problem with the trinity is that they are all co-eternal. Three co-eternal persons, who share some kind of substance. That's very difficult to distinguish from a kind of limited polytheism, to me. If these were just manifestations of a single entity, that would be one thing, but they've deemed that heretical.

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

I used to think that, but the problem with the trinity is that they are all co-eternal. Three co-eternal persons, who share some kind of substance. That's very difficult to distinguish from a kind of limited polytheism, to me. If these were just manifestations of a single entity, that would be one thing, but they've deemed that heretical.

Another huge problem with the trinity in unity is the human nature of Jesus. How can it be perfect union if Jesus is God and man, but the other two aren't?

 

[nazz]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though? Christians believe God is triune, which neither Jews or Muslims believe. Similarly, some Jews and Christians recognize Allah's pre-Islamic usage
and argue that Islam's god isn't the same.

Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually have the same god all things considered?

There are different ways to view this question. Is the identity of a deity bound by a name? Does the identity depend on how that deity is conceived by those who believe in it? Or does a deity transcend any conceptions (or misconceptions) about it?

As a Gnostic Christian I see the identity and nature of the God that Jesus revealed and expressed as different from the deity that Jews and Muslims worship. I see non-gnostic Christians as worshiping a hybrid between the two.

 

[outhouse]

They are 3 very different god concepts by definition.

They are in no way the same concept

Judaism plagiarized Canaanite deities and the concept evolved and compiled two deities into one.

Christianity plagiarized Judaism's god adding a son and a ghost not there before.

Islam plagiarized them all redefining monotheism.

 

[Copernicus]

I'm not a big fan of terms like "Abrahamic" or "Judeo-Christian"; I think they imply a shared bond that is rarely present.

I think that all religions, not just those three, share the same God (I am a monotheist, after all ), but we have radically different understanding of God. While both Islam and Christianity build off of Judaism, they differ enough that theological understanding can be quite difficult.

You could just as legitimately ask whether all Christians worship the same God, even in the same church sometimes. Everyone has some quirks and differences in their concept of God, but the Abrahamic religions are united by a common historical tradition and monotheistic belief. Muslims often take the concept of the Trinity as a type of polytheism, and therefore blasphemy. What defines a religion is not actually its scripture, but the communities of people that make it up. And you can define the community of a religion as widely or narrowly as you please. It is the community that defines the doctrinal interpretation of scripture.

 

[Jensen]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though? Christians believe God is triune, which neither Jews or Muslims believe. Similarly, some Jews and Christians recognize Allah's pre-Islamic usage
and argue that Islam's god isn't the same.

Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually have the same god all things considered?

No, not all of them...

 

[Etritonakin]

If they describe God -including what God has done and would have them do -and give different answers, their Gods are not actually the same (except in the sense that they both had interaction with the same God through their ancestry [Ishmael in the case of many Islamic peoples, if I remember correctly -Isaac and Jacob in the case of Judaism, Christianity, etc.], but grew to disagree about God.)

If God is not, it really doesn't matter.

If God is (and God is), then all have the same God -though they may not know him.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though?

All 3 are following Abraham's god, and that god indeed must be a conspiratorial god who makes multiple pacts and gives out multiple rules. I judge that it plays people against one another, it sieves them about and is indecisive, or has some other motive.

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

There are different ways to view this question. Is the identity of a deity bound by a name? Does the identity depend on how that deity is conceived by those who believe in it? Or does a deity transcend any conceptions (or misconceptions) about it?

As a Gnostic Christian I see the identity and nature of the God that Jesus revealed and expressed as different from the deity that Jews and Muslims worship. I see non-gnostic Christians as worshiping a hybrid between the two.

Do you think their god is the demiurge?

 

[nazz]

Do you think their god is the demiurge?

In part, yes

 

[Tarheeler]

You could just as legitimately ask whether all Christians worship the same God, even in the same church sometimes. Everyone has some quirks and differences in their concept of God, but the Abrahamic religions are united by a common historical tradition and monotheistic belief. Muslims often take the concept of the Trinity as a type of polytheism, and therefore blasphemy. What defines a religion is not actually its scripture, but the communities of people that make it up. And you can define the community of a religion as widely or narrowly as you please. It is the community that defines the doctrinal interpretation of scripture.

Like I said, it is rarely present. Sure, there is a shared bond deep down in their foundations, but it really does little to bind them today. Christianity, in particular, is far more influenced by the Greeks, the Romans, and the European cultures that have been its mainstay for the last 1700 years. Islam and Judaism are closer culturally, but even then there are significant differences.

And I think that your example of various Christian groups is a good example; even though you have extreme differences between Catholics, Orthodox, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses, they do share fundamental similarities. Similarities that are missing when you compare any of those you Judaism or Islam. We have a much different understanding of key theological components like salvation, redemption, theodicy, the nature of man. Enough so that religious discussions between members of the two groups can become bogged down in trying to come to common understanding of those terms.

 

[gsa]

As a Gnostic Christian I see the identity and nature of the God that Jesus revealed and expressed as different from the deity that Jews and Muslims worship. I see non-gnostic Christians as worshiping a hybrid between the two.

I don't know about this. The Kabbalists seem to wrestle with the challenge of Gnosticism, as do the Sufis (I would also argue other Islamic sects, like the Alawites). Whether this makes any difference at all who can say? Certainly they don't see the god they worship as similar to the Demiurge.

 

[nazz]

I don't know about this. The Kabbalists seem to wrestle with the challenge of Gnosticism, as do the Sufis (I would also argue other Islamic sects, like the Alawites). Whether this makes any difference at all who can say? Certainly they don't see the god they worship as similar to the Demiurge.

Well the demiurge is the creator of this world. Jews, Muslims, and non-gnostic Christians identify their deity as the creator.

 

[Thana]

In theology two of them claim they do. Muslims claim their god is the god of Abraham, and so do Christians.

How can their radically differing views about God be reconciled though? Christians believe God is triune, which neither Jews or Muslims believe. Similarly, some Jews and Christians recognize Allah's pre-Islamic usage
and argue that Islam's god isn't the same.

Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually have the same god all things considered?

I think the term 'More or less' is appropriate. We all claim to worship the God of Abraham. Though I've yet to meet a Christian or a Jew that's thought Islam has any significance or truth to it, But perhaps that's just me.

By the by, Not all Christians believe in the Trinity.