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I would like to see how many of our users here believe in which theory (old earth or young earth) and why.
True, there's not enough to make a theory about young earth. It's basically a mish-mash of criticisms against the current scientific views ranging from mildly skeptical to wild speculations.I don't think young earth creationism rises to the level of "theory". It's barely a guess.
There is NO debate.
Apart from religious scripts written centuries ago there is not a scrap of evidence of a young earth.
The earth is old, very old - end of conversation.
The Genesis account does not state the timeframe between the creation of the "heavens and the earth" and the events that prepared the earth for habitation.
Genesis 1:1....."In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
This is a singular statement.....a time when God created matter...the physical universe with all that it contains.
Then in verse 2 it speaks about the state of the planet before God began to work on it.....
"2 Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters."
The creative 'days' were not 24 hour periods, but could have been epochs of perhaps millions of years, wherein God accomplished by increments, all the creative processes he had planned.
I would like to see how many of our users here believe in which theory (old earth or young earth) and why.
What are the core issues in the debate between old earth and young earth?
Do you believe the earth was created in 7 days? Give your argument for or against.
Unless, of course, it isn't. But I'm sure your grasp of Biblical Hebrew is much, much better than mine?Genesis 1:1....."In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
This is a singular statement.....a time when God created matter...the physical universe with all that it contains.
Then in verse 2 ...
The 7 days were by the Light of Genesis 1:3; it was not solar days. Therefore we don't know. I'm not saying it was a long time or a short time. Just God's time. The Light was a supernatural Light. It was essentially the Light of God. So all things are made in 7 periods of the Light of God shining; inter-spaced by darkness in-between (called night).I would like to see how many of our users here believe in which theory (old earth or young earth) and why.
What are the core issues in the debate between old earth and young earth?
Do you believe the earth was created in 7 days? Give your argument for or against.
The 7 days were by the Light of Genesis 1:3; it was not solar days. Therefore we don't know. I'm not saying it was a long time or a short time. Just God's time. The Light was a supernatural Light. It was essentially the Light of God. So all things are made in 7 periods of the Light of God shining; inter-spaced by darkness in-between (called night).
These 7 periods of Light and darkness symbolize all the ages of the world to come. Ending in rest which is going to be eternal rest in God's finished creation. The creation of God is not finished yet because God has not yet rested in the new Jerusalem. This final rest of God was symbolized in the 7th day and when Solomon built the temple of God in Zion. They said "Arise, O Jehovah, to Thy rest, Thou, and the ark of Thy strength,"
But God said of Solomon's temple "Thus saith Jehovah, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?"
So it became evident that no physical temple could give rest to a God like Jehovah who the skies could not even contain.
So, the new Jerusalem is what God is building. Jesus said "I go to prepare a place for you" what He did not say there is that this place is us. Yes, those who are the elect are the new Jerusalem. God will only rest in us because altogether as a great house for God with incarnate Jesus as the chief cornerstone we can express all the nature of the unfathomable and infinite God. So He will have rest in us. As it is written "Jehovah thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing."
So the rest(the 7th day) is the whole reason God made the world. Because God is love (1 John 4:8) and love must have something to love or it may not rest.
And if we want we can join His rest also. He says "Behold I make all things new". So we can be made new. Those who are saved in Jesus are the true new Jerusalem when we are made new. As God said "But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy."
It will be a glorious rest. (Isaiah 11:10)
I'm really more of an "Other - I'm not on any side because the answer is irrelevant in my life." I don't find the answer to the question important. The age of the gods does not matter to me. It is enough to know that Gaea - the earth - was here before me and will be here long after. It is the now in which I reside.
Not being more curious about the place you live
is something I find very odd.
So do I.
Where we differ is that I don't erroneously conflate "precise age of earth really isn't that important" with "not being more curious about the place you live."
Nobody could give a precise age. There is though a
big difference between the biblical 6 day poof
of a few K years ago, and, the actual approx age.
As well as the processes involved!
Nobody could give a precise age. There is though a
big difference between the biblical 6 day poof
of a few K years ago, and, the actual approx age.
As well as the processes involved!
There is no theory of a young earth in any scientific sense. The only people who argue for a young earth are science ignoramuses who are foolish enough to take the bible literally in all respects, something Christian scholars have not done since about 400AD.I would like to see how many of our users here believe in which theory (old earth or young earth) and why.
What are the core issues in the debate between old earth and young earth?
Do you believe the earth was created in 7 days? Give your argument for or against.
I suppose I'm not articulating well where I'm coming from. What I am saying is that while the age of the earth may be a "big difference" from an academic standpoint, when it comes to living our day to day lives, that information is irrelevant and unimportant. I don't think any of us can say the age of the earth has any significant impact on how we live our lives... unless we happen to be a career geologist or evolutionary biologist.