Evolution has been observed... right?

[Valjean]

Every time you refer to natural selection as random, you're showing your ignorance. Why don't you stop and learn something?

He makes statements that clearly indicate he does not understand the process, then complains of insults and ad homs when we point this out.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Again, creationists sure are entertaining.

But one cell animals becoming multi cell animals makes perfect sense. That's the entertainment.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Case in point.

You are just mad that I am right and you have nothing.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

" It" doesn't exist.

What is creationist knowledge of science for $1000 Alex?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

I like how you immediately changed the subject when you realized how wrong you were.

Very subtle.

Also, single celled creatures becoming many different kinds of creatures is not even remotely far fetched. As I have just explained (and you tacitly acknowledged) every single example of an organisn reproducing is an example of unicellular organisms growing into large, multicelled ones. So obviously you don't believe it's impossible to happen, do you?

Of course a dog egg grows into a dog and a chicken egg grows into a chicken. Nothing odd there. But an egg from one species growing into a different species? Very scientific.

 

[Valjean]

The environment has no mechanism to choose. Dino survives a meteor shower and then gets taken out in a landslide. Was this chosen? No, it's random.
Unless you believe God is guiding the environmental changes.

So you admit you don't know about the mechanisms that drive evolution; observed, commonsense mechanisms that have been explained to you. Then you claim the mechanisms don't exist?
Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away, it just discredits your argument.
Show me some wild maize, or a wild cocker spaniel. Did God poof them into existence?

 

[Valjean]

I do not care if it is many billions of years. Has anyone ever found out how one cell animals could become something else?

Yes. How do you not know this?

Just saying that one day there were one cell animals and billions of years later there were other animals does not explain how it happened. That is a big difference between bears in a cold climate growing thicker coats. They are still bears. But bears in a cold climate do not become walruses.

So changes can't accumulate?

lostwanderingsoul said: ↑
Would you be so kind as to show me some of the evidence? Just consider me a dummy that does not understand.

TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy

Do not show your ignorance. It takes TWO cells to reproduce. One from a male and one from a female. And they are both the same species. A single cell cannot become anything but a single cell.

There are male and female bacteria and amœbas?! Their single cells don't split into two single cells?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Of course a dog egg grows into a dog and a chicken egg grows into a chicken. Nothing odd there. But an egg from one species growing into a different species? Very scientific.

No. Your scenario here is magic and not an example of anything science claims.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You are just mad that I am right and you have nothing.

Rabbit is excellent in pot pies... mad? I don't take any of these discussions serious enough to get mad.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Of course a dog egg grows into a dog and a chicken egg grows into a chicken. Nothing odd there. But an egg from one species growing into a different species? Very scientific.

Please find a single example of anyone other than a creationist claiming that evolution says that one species grows into another species.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So you admit you don't know about the mechanisms that drive evolution; observed, commonsense mechanisms that have been explained to you. Then you claim the mechanisms don't exist?
Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away, it just discredits your argument.
Show me some wild maize, or a wild cocker spaniel. Did God poof them into existence?

What does a wild cocker spaniel have to do with it? Did you miss the part where creationists believe that all dogs came from one pair of canines?
But that doesn't equal all life on Earth coming from a single celled organism. Or apes morphing into humans.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Rabbit is excellent in pot pies... mad? I don't take any of these discussions serious enough to get mad.

You keep telling yourself that.

Meantime, do you anything valid to add? Anything at all? One little thing?

Hello.

Hello.

Is there anyone there?

 

[Jose Fly]

I would say there is a big difference between some birds of a species having long beaks and other of the same species having short beaks. I 100% agree with this type of "evolution".

Congratulations on taking the tiniest of steps towards reality.

Whereas one set of birds becoming fish is a completely different story.

Oh it's a "different story" all right....a story of just how little you know about the subject.

Animals of a species can change but not become a different species.

The evolution of new species is a repeatedly observed and documented reality. Creationist organizations like AiG even acknowledge it.

But one cell animals becoming multi cell animals makes perfect sense.

It's been observed and documented. Experimental evolution of multicellularity | PNAS

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The environment has no mechanism to choose. Dino survives a meteor shower and then gets taken out in a landslide. Was this chosen? No, it's random.
Unless you believe God is guiding the environmental changes.

So you believe that one organism being more likely to survive in a particular environment than another is... random?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Please find a single example of anyone other than a creationist claiming that evolution says that one species grows into another species.

Very dishonest. Claiming two species such as canines and felines came from the same ancestor
is the same thing.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What does a wild cocker spaniel have to do with it? Did you miss the part where creationists believe that all dogs came from one pair of canines?
But that doesn't equal all life on Earth coming from a single celled organism. Or apes morphing into humans.

You really like magic don't you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So you believe that one organism being more likely to survive in a particular environment than another is... random?

When that particular environment constantly changes, of course it's random. An animal adapts to work in a certain environment and then environment changes...said animal goes extinct.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You really like magic don't you.

Now natural and artificial selection within species is magic?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Very dishonest. Claiming two species such as canines and felines came from the same ancestor
is the same thing.

Is it honest to ignore evidence or to use logical fallacies? Do you consider hypocrisy to be a virtue?

 

[Jose Fly]

Please find a single example of anyone other than a creationist claiming that evolution says that one species grows into another species.

Um....we do, it's called "speciation".