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Gods personal name

clara17

Memorable member
I already told you I don't believe in fictional demons, and that doesn't answer my question, are the Harry Potter books evidence for wizardry?

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Bondage-Vintage-Classics/dp/0099284960

That's a marvellous book, I thoroughly recommend it, the author has an astounding insight into the human condition. Or are your beliefs so closed minded, that they don't allow books except the bible? Only you didn't answer that question either?

a 720 page fiction?
gee id love to but maybe you can summarize it
 

clara17

Memorable member
Deepity...

The Bible doesnt actually say God is omnipotent, it says there are things he can not do, such as break a promise or tell a lie.
(i.e. if he looks at a white canvas and says the canvas is blue, it becomes blue as the word is spoken)

Creating a cell he "cant escape from" would be on par with telling a lie,
so I dont think he could say "let me create a cell I cant escape from" since he would be lying.
 

Bree

Active Member
With there being no vowels in their language, it's just whatever they put in. That's why Yahweh and Jehovah are some of his names. They swapped out different vowels. I think J and Y are interchangeable as well. Oy vey.

yes its the lack of vowels in the hebrew language that makes it difficult to know.

But its the person behind the name that is important...not the pronunciation.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Is that the best little mortal minds can come up with. He created all of creation.
Yes I'm familiar with the myth, but don't believe it obviously. I was trying to illustrate the contradictory nature of the idea of omnipotence. It seems you don't want to critically examine your religions claims.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That name was so important to Jesus he began the lords prayer about it--Hallowed be thy name.
But he didn't say the Name, which was the custom within Judaism at his time as it was only said in the Holy of Holies by the priest on Yom Kippur because it was and is so very Special.

And you keep missing the point as to what Jesus really taught that's paramount, instead deflecting back to that which is easy to disprove. There simply is no mandate that one must always use His Holy Name, but his message of "love one another" is mandatory, so all you are doing is simply barking up the wrong tree.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Here are some facts few probably know. They are hidden from most that claim to be those that serve Jesus.

In the OT, Gods personal name was removed( making them altered versions) In nearly 6800 spots. Every spot where- GOD or LORD all capitols. Wicked removed it, they had no right. God inspired his name there.
As well They have found very old fragments of the Greek septuagent(NT) The ones who read them stated--We have proof Gods personal name is in the NT and used by the early christians.
That goes along with Jesus who at John 17:6- teaches that name to his followers, At John 17:26- Promises to keep on making that name known. Along with another prayer to his Father from Jesus at John 12:28--Father, glorify your name. Therefore a voice came out of heaven i both glorified it and will glorify it again.

This proves The Father and the son want that name known and used.
Yet the religions that keep that name out, condemned the ones who put it back-They said the name doesnt belong in the Nt even though there is proof. Proving they are doing the opposite of the Fathers will and what Jesus wants. Jesus lives to do the Fathers will as does every true follower-Matthew 7:21-Jesus is clear-Those living now to do his Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom( be saved)-- so by those religions doing the opposite of the Fathers will have closed up Gods kingdom to all that listen to them=2Corinthians 11:12-15--Run from them.

I believe the criticism is valid that the JWs stick the name in inappropriate places. Not every lord is Jehovah.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Personally I have found running from all religions including Jehovah's Witnesses to be more truthful.

I think if there is salvation then if God is loving logically salvation would be for all since our deeds seem to stem from defects in brain chemistry and or structure, and defective environmental influences, neither of which we have complete control over.

So why would God blame us for that which is out of our control?

In my opinion.

I believe there is plenty of sin that comes from those in control. Somehow I believe the devil made me do it won't wash with God.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The teachings of Jesus is the key. 99% of all religion claiming to be christian do not listen to him. They teach dogma taught in the schools of men.
I haveattended different ones, i learnedabout them, i learned about the Jw,s and i studied Jesus teachings carefully. There is no doubt in all creation, Jesus teachings back the Jw,s as well as true God worship history does as well.

I believe you are going to make me laugh myself silly. I have heard the same propaganda for so long it is beginning to sound like a mantra. The problem is that it has no basis in truth.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I believe you are going to make me laugh myself silly. I have heard the same propaganda for so long it is beginning to sound like a mantra. The problem is that it has no basis in truth.


You can laugh all you want. They laughed at Noah to, where did it get them? The facts of true God worship history and the teachings of Jesus prove what is truth. No trinity god exists. Billions have been mislead into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily, that makes those a worker of iniquity, and at judgement will hear these words from Jesus-Matthew 7:22-23--He will say to those--Get away from me , you who work iniquity, i must confess i never even knew you. Billions of jaws will drop. Thus it is no laughing matter.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I believe there is plenty of sin that comes from those in control. Somehow I believe the devil made me do it won't wash with God.
This doesn't apply to me as I do not believe in the existence of the devil, nor do I believe in the devil's ability to influence me to to anything.

In my opinion.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
No, God has not told me that there is a devil, only misguided men lacking evidence have told me that.

In my opinion.


No, God has not told me that there is a devil, only misguided men lacking evidence have told me that.

In my opinion.


What misguided men are those? Moses wrote Genesis, inspired by Gods holy spirit. He assures a fallen angel rebelled and got Eve to rebel, Adam stood by her over God. And that fallen angel came to be known as satan and devil. Satan means-resister of YHWH(Jehovah)--Devil means- slanderer of God.
It is a fallen angel, 1/3 more fell. God is rooting out all rebels-You are standing in that position.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
"Jehovah" is not found anywhere in the Tanakh, especially since the Hebrew didn't include any vowels, thus you are violating what you blame others for.


YHWH is there-that is his Hebrew name--we do not speak Hebrew-same goes with Job, Joshua, Jeremiah--you have no problem with those english names. But you use them. I will use Jehovah. I always precede it with YHWH in my posts most x.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
clara17 said:
The Bible doesnt actually say God is omnipotent,
And evidence of this is that God says that he didn't know that Saul was going to be so terrible as a king, thus needed to be replaced by David.

That would be evidence against omniscience, not omnipotence.

I also found this:

Revelation 19:6
King James Version

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
 
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