I am the living bread

[Elihoenai]

One was simply to quote from Jesus as requested by me, please.
Else, it is you who have challenged Jesus, when he never claimed as such, please, right?
Regards
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I am not opposing one, I am just helping one , please. Right?

Matthew 5:17

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Luke 24:44

44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.


Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ Practises and Teaches the Holy Scriptures/Bible from Genesis to Revelation is a Unified Whole.


@paarsurrey For you to suggests otherwise, is Embarrassing, Insulting and Blasphemous. Obviously you Cannot Really Unify the Old Testament/Hebrew Scriptures and New Testament/Greek Scriptures like the other 2.2 Billion Earthly Christians in Christendom. That's because it Cannot Really be Unified with Exoteric Knowledge: I am the living bread

 

[WonderingWorrier]

I support Freedom of Speech. With Freedom of Speech you make the World almost Full with error with a tiny spec of Truth, like a Needle in a Haystack.

Perhaps like trying to find a piece of hay in a pile of needles.

There are two types of Liberty that the Few Elect Cross and Inverted Cross Practitioners obtain.

What are the two types?

Nobody is Unbiased. You are Biased about Freedom of Speech while others like Totalitarians are Biased about Suppression. I Am Biased about Religion while others are Biased about Atheism.

Maybe there is a reason it should not be talked about.

(Why make wisdom appear foolish?)

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Corinthians.


Maybe there is a reason it should be talked about.

Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. Corinthians

Yes, Faith is believing in something without knowledge.

If Jesus says that he is bread then he is not talking highly of himself.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Flesh - Bone - Blood

Maybe he is speaking of his sacrifice.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

What do you mean by the word "Learn"?

Observe and interpret a perspective.

I like the question "is the glass half full or half empty?".

The glass is half full of water.
And the glass is half empty of water.
Both are correct.

I thought about it.

The glass is half full of air.
And the glass is half empty of air.

Multiple opposite sounding perspectives can be part of a whole.

Are you being Persecuted?

Are you persecuting me in your next sentence?

To the 2.2 Christians in Christendom and on these Forums, are you considering these Strange Doctrines? Is this stuff Satanic Deceptive Error?

 

[Elihoenai]

Perhaps like trying to find a piece of hay in a pile of needles.

That is the Inverted way of looking at Finding a Needle in a Haystack. What is Inverted appears so to those on the Opposite Spectrum.

What are the two types?

The Cross type is the Spiritual Yeshua/Jesus. The Inverted Cross is the Earthly/Carnal Yeshua/Jesus represented by Marquis de Sade, Sabbatean-Frankist and Aleister Crowley. These are the Two Types of Liberty.


Fury Ending Credits

Maybe there is a reason it should not be talked about.

(Why make wisdom appear foolish?)

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Corinthians.


Maybe there is a reason it should be talked about.

Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. Corinthians

@WonderingWorrier Are you Saved? If yes, how did you get Saved?

If Jesus says that he is bread then he is not talking highly of himself.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Flesh - Bone - Blood

Maybe he is speaking of his sacrifice.

This sounds like Speculation. Are you Speculating about Christian Doctrine?

 

[Elihoenai]

Observe and interpret a perspective.

I like the question "is the glass half full or half empty?".

The glass is half full of water.
And the glass is half empty of water.
Both are correct.

I thought about it.

The glass is half full of air.
And the glass is half empty of air.

Multiple opposite sounding perspectives can be part of a whole.

This appears to be "Head Knowledge" that you are engaged in.

Are you persecuting me in your next sentence?

@WonderingWorrier You haven't answered the question. A Christian should know why I'm asking the question. Are you being Persecuted?

 

[WonderingWorrier]

That is the Inverted way of looking at Finding a Needle in a Haystack.

Perhaps one mans needle is another mans hay.

What is Inverted appears so to those on the Opposite Spectrum.

Like words of eating bread and drinking wine.

Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled. Proverbs.


And words of eating the flesh of men and drinking their blood.

Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. Ezekiel


The Bread is Flesh (Group1), and the Wine is Blood (Group3).

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Flesh - Bone - Blood
Spear - Sword - Bow

As Oil is Bones.
As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Psalm

As Sword is Bones.
As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God?


Do you think Jesus teaches peace?
Or does he teach war?

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew.


Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Corn - Olive - Grape
Bread - Oil - Wine
Spear - Sword - Bow

The sword is an Olive branch.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

These are the Two Types of Liberty.

So you say there is earthly liberty and spiritual liberty as the two types.
Can you explain the liberty? Liberty to do what?

 

[WonderingWorrier]

@WonderingWorrier Are you Saved? If yes, how did you get Saved?

I believe the words with all my heart.
But I dont know if I'm saved by my belief

@WonderingWorrier You haven't answered the question. A Christian should know why I'm asking the question. Are you being Persecuted?

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Timothy.

So does "a true Christian" use faith to know why you would ask such a question?


Do you know why the persecutors sink as stones in the mighty waters?

 

[Elihoenai]

Perhaps one mans needle is another mans hay.



Like words of eating bread and drinking wine.

Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled. Proverbs.


And words of eating the flesh of men and drinking their blood.

Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. Ezekiel


The Bread is Flesh (Group1), and the Wine is Blood (Group3).

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Flesh - Bone - Blood
Spear - Sword - Bow

As Oil is Bones.
As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Psalm

As Sword is Bones.
As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God?


Do you think Jesus teaches peace?
Or does he teach war?

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew.


Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Corn - Olive - Grape
Bread - Oil - Wine
Spear - Sword - Bow

The sword is an Olive branch.

The Earthly Jesus/Yeshua is a Warmonger and Rightly so. Brutes of the World don't respond to Hugs and Kisses. Elohim/God has given Jesus/Yeshua Earthly Dominion.

 

[Elihoenai]

So you say there is earthly liberty and spiritual liberty as the two types.
Can you explain the liberty? Liberty to do what?

If you know Marquis de Sade, Sabbatean-Frankist and Aleister Crowley that should answer the questions you posed. The Inverted Cross Liberty.

 

[Elihoenai]

I believe the words with all my heart.
But I dont know if I'm saved by my belief

Therefore, you don't Really know what it means to be Saved or what Salvation is. This provides evidence you are Speculating about Christian Doctrine.

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Timothy.

So does "a true Christian" use faith to know why you would ask such a question?


Do you know why the persecutors sink as stones in the mighty waters?

@WonderingWorrier Given that you don't really know what Salvation is, you cannot be suffering Real Persecution. It appears again that you have not answered the question. Why would a Christian evade such a question?

 

[Elihoenai]

1 John 4:1

4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


@WonderingWorrier Given that you do Not Believe in Faith, do Not Really know what Salvation is and Believe that you can find the Truth in Holy Scriptures/Bible purely with Logic, this means you are an Earthly Christian and a member of the Universal Roman Catholic Church.


@WonderingWorrier Your teachings is an Empty Intellectual Exercise with Wild Speculations. Continuation on this Path means that you will certainly Perish and Not be Saved.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

If you know Marquis de Sade, Sabbatean-Frankist and Aleister Crowley that should answer the questions you posed. The Inverted Cross Liberty.

No sorry I dont know them. Can you explain the connection between them that will answer my questions?

As you have said:

The Elect Cross Practitioners are Giants of the Spirit and the Elect Inverted Cross Practioners are Giants of the Flesh/Carnal.

You say there are two types of liberty that few obtain.

There are two types of Liberty that the Few Elect Cross and Inverted Cross Practitioners obtain.

Can you explain the liberties?

 

[WonderingWorrier]

Therefore, you don't Really know what it means to be Saved or what Salvation is. This provides evidence you are Speculating about Christian Doctrine.

I do not know what it means to be saved.
I consider what it means to sacrifice the soul of oneself to try to help others.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

@WonderingWorrier Given that you don't really know what Salvation is, you cannot be suffering Real Persecution. It appears again that you have not answered the question. Why would a Christian evade such a question?

Perhaps persecutors and those of faith both have the same problem.
Misunderstanding the speech of the prophets. Not knowing how it could be true.

As you said faith is belief without knowledge.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

The Earthly Jesus/Yeshua is a Warmonger and Rightly so. Brutes of the World don't respond to Hugs and Kisses. Elohim/God has given Jesus/Yeshua Earthly Dominion.

How is it rightly so?
Who decides who is a "brute" and what reasoning is used?

Are you listening to my reasoning when I mention weapons of war in the Bible and show that they are not what they seem to be?

The war stuff mentioned in the Bible bothers me. Because I know there is no war.

 

[Elihoenai]

No sorry I dont know them. Can you explain the connection between them that will answer my questions?

If you really want to know a little research might help.

As you have said:



You say there are two types of liberty that few obtain.


Can you explain the liberties?

Given that you don't understand the Two Types of Liberties, this provides evidence that you are not studying the Holy Scriptures/Bible with Sincere Motives. I have provided clues and still you are yet to grasp. I don't Spoon-Feed.

 

[Elihoenai]

I do not know what it means to be saved.
I consider what it means to sacrifice the soul of oneself to try to help others.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


You are not different from the other 2.2 Billion of Christians in Christendom, as they don't Really know what it means to be Saved.


Yet there is Hope in your regard because you admit to not knowing what it means to be Saved while 2.2 Billions Christians mistakenly believe that they are Saved.


Mother Teresa did all that work to help others Doubting Elohim/God demonstrating that she was Not Really Saved.

 

[Elihoenai]

How is it rightly so?
Who decides who is a "brute" and what reasoning is used?

Are you listening to my reasoning when I mention weapons of war in the Bible and show that they are not what they seem to be?

The war stuff mentioned in the Bible bothers me. Because I know there is no war.

Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.


Elohim/God decides who is a Brute. Everything that happens is the Will of Elohim/God and Ordained by Elohim/God.


There is a Spiritual and Earthly Yeshua/Jesus. The Earthly Yeshua/Jesus has a Monopoly on Violence.


What do you mean that there is no War? Saying that the Sky or Rain does not exist, does not make it true.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

If you really want to know a little research might help.




Given that you don't understand the Two Types of Liberties, this provides evidence that you are not studying the Holy Scriptures/Bible with Sincere Motives. I have provided clues and still you are yet to grasp. I don't Spoon-Feed.

I am unable to understand your clues.
I did have a look at the names you mentioned before I asked you for clarification.
Do I have to research each of their lives and list similarities which I would then have to guess which similarity is the connection between them that you are talking about?
I might choose a wrong connection and misunderstand you.