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Alleged Whistleblower Says ABC Rigged the Debate

Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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What's the deal here? IMO, we will have to wait and see if the affidavit is genuine. At this point, all we have is an alleged affidavit with elements blacked out. The Notary Public's name is blacked out also. This affidavit first appeared on X, a platform owned by Elon Musk, a notorious Trump fanboy.
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Wandering Monk said:
What's the deal here? IMO, we will have to wait and see if the affidavit is genuine. At this point, all we have is an alleged affidavit with elements blacked out. The Notary Public's name is blacked out also. This affidavit first appeared on X, a platform owned by Elon Musk, a notorious Trump fanboy.
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Looks like a JD Vance style story, veracity irrelevant, but lots of wild assertions to get into the twittersphere and get talked about.
Lots of stuff about how ABC isn't living up to being a "real' journalistic environment since 1996 and that all of this stuff is well known internally but somehow nobody else has ever reported any of it.

If whoever thinks this is important enough to send unacknowledged copies to Mike Johnson and protect himself by sending fed ex copies to himself, not releasing it to a "safe" public outlet and redacting the notary just doesn't pass a smell test.

A Facebook post about an acquaintance who heard about a neighbor who lost their cat and might have had Haitian neighbors is maybe more plausible.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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Pogo said:
Looks like a JD Vance style story, veracity irrelevant, but lots of wild assertions to get into the twittersphere and get talked about.
Lots of stuff about how ABC isn't living up to being a "real' journalistic environment since 1996 and that all of this stuff is well known internally but somehow nobody else has ever reported any of it.

If whoever thinks this is important enough to send unacknowledged copies to Mike Johnson and protect himself by sending fed ex copies to himself, not releasing it to a "safe" public outlet and redacting the notary just doesn't pass a smell test.

A Facebook post about an acquaintance who heard about a neighbor who lost their cat and might have had Haitian neighbors is maybe more plausible.
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All the lies coming from the Trump camp are not moving independents though. As I have said, Trump is not expanding his base, but presenting his bona fides to his base.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
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wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Wandering Monk said:
What's the deal here? IMO, we will have to wait and see if the affidavit is genuine. At this point, all we have is an alleged affidavit with elements blacked out. The Notary Public's name is blacked out also. This affidavit first appeared on X, a platform owned by Elon Musk, a notorious Trump fanboy.
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If you watched the debate, Trump was fact checked even when telling the truth. While Harris was not fact check, once, for repeated lying. Foe example, Harris said, under her and Biden not a single US soldier has been in harms way. This was not fact checked but it was false and played to the naive base.

Below are all the places in the world, where you get extra pay, due to being under fire. The debate was rigged to be 3 against 1, so fake news could do a victory lap. ABC news carries the most water for the DNC, such that even CNN, is was criticizing how obvious this was.

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The DNC has nothing good to offer so they have to hate and cheat. The next debate should allow Trump and Harris to each pick a moderator to ask equations of the other person. Let us level the playing field. I would have Vance moderate Harris.
 
Clizby Wampuscat

Clizby Wampuscat

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Wandering Monk said:
What's the deal here? IMO, we will have to wait and see if the affidavit is genuine. At this point, all we have is an alleged affidavit with elements blacked out. The Notary Public's name is blacked out also. This affidavit first appeared on X, a platform owned by Elon Musk, a notorious Trump fanboy.
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I don't know about this whistleblower but Harris said many objectively false things the moderators never questioned. Her statement that there are no troops in combat zones is false and scary and should have been questioned. She is the VP and wants to be President but doesn't know where our troops are? or she lied about it which are both shameful.
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Clizby Wampuscat said:
I don't know about this whistleblower but Harris said many objectively false things the moderators never questioned. Her statement that there are no troops in combat zones is false and scary and should have been questioned. She is the VP and wants to be President but doesn't know where our troops are? or she lied about it which are both shameful.
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Provide us with some evidence and we might listen otherwise you are nitpicking definitions to deflect from known absurd falsehoods.
Pathetic.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Clizby Wampuscat said:
I don't know about this whistleblower but Harris said many objectively false things the moderators never questioned. Her statement that there are no troops in combat zones is false and scary and should have been questioned. She is the VP and wants to be President but doesn't know where our troops are? or she lied about it which are both shameful.
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Is it generally important that a candidate's
mistakes & lies are significant? Would this
apply to Trump & Vance also?
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Wirey said:
I heard from an alleged whistleblower that Trump wasn't wearing pants behind the podium, and this whistleblower was surprised he had hands. See how that alleged thing works.
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I think I still have my mother's notary stamp somewhere. I won't even worry about who you are if I get to redact it in the copy I return to you, just try to make it vaguely plausible and remember you are referring to what you heard others say and your impressions only.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
We will have to wait to see who the whistleblower and the notary are, assuming that this is legit. Odd that the first place the document shows up is on an AI generated profile on X and is redacted. Of course the MAGA useful idiots in Congress and social media have jumped into the fray as if this is a legitimate document before we really know if it is. They failed miserably with the whistleblower in the Hunter Biden hearings when it was revealed he was an agent of the Chicoms.
 
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Argentbear

Argentbear

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wellwisher said:
If you watched the debate, Trump was fact checked even when telling the truth. While Harris was not fact check, once,
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Simply not true. Harris was fact checked on multiple statements:

16 Nobel laureates say Trump's plan would increase inflation and land us in a recession

Trump wants a "20% tax on everyday goods" that would cost families "about $4,000 more a year."

"Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression."

Trump "killed" bill that would have secured border

Harris said of the Central Park 5, 'Trump took out a full-page ad calling for their execution'

These claims were all fact checked live during the debate and they are all true.
 
Pogo

Pogo

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Argentbear said:
Simply not true. Harris was fact checked on multiple statements:

16 Nobel laureates say Trump's plan would increase inflation and land us in a recession

Trump wants a "20% tax on everyday goods" that would cost families "about $4,000 more a year."

"Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression."

Trump "killed" bill that would have secured border

Harris said of the Central Park 5, 'Trump took out a full-page ad calling for their execution'

These claims were all fact checked live during the debate and they are all true.
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But fact checks of true statements don't count.
 
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