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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ― Werner Heisenberg “Consciousness cannot be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental. It cannot be accounted for in...
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    Exactly. I do not, nor do I want to have "too much of a grasp". One gets lost in the "facts" and cannot see the forest from the trees. My sources are Biblical Scripture, various books and articles I've searched out, and relating to a few quotes from Max Planck, and my own daily "instant to...
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    Hello Bunyip. What I am suggesting is that all experience is the same; that one type is no different than another and all are "real" because they exist, because they are experienced. Certainly we must distinguish between what is "real" as physical beings from what is imagined just to make sense...
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    That's the rub Muhammad. It has to be convincing to the extreme yet hidden in plain sight! :-))) Cheers
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    Hello Legion, In QM, and according to the Copenhagen Interpretation , matter and energy exist in the instant of observation. Without observation, there is no way to prove either exists outside of this instant of observation. Even our scientific instruments, which record data without our...
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    If we have to "assume" that reality is "real", would not then a lucid dream be real? Experience, no matter how we chose to define and compartmentalize it, is always real. What isn't real is our insistence that experience has variations. Real versus unreal experience. Physical versus sentient...
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    Try considering that now is the ONLY "time" anything can appear to exist. What exists a moment ago is merely memory. What will exist a moment from now, right now is just imagination. It is only right now that anything can exist. Just saying. Cheers
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    Do Concepts Exist Apart from Physical Processes in the Brain?

    Quite the fascinating conversation going on here! I hope no one objects to my posting in the middle of your exchanges. Your post on the definition of Abstract however compelled me to ask you to consider the idea that ALL experience, what we call objective and subjective, is in fact abstract. The...
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    Can science prove or disprove the existence of a Spiritual existence? God?

    Good Morning and Thank You IF, So how do we get politicians to acknowledge that? :-))) Cheers
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    Can science prove or disprove the existence of a Spiritual existence? God?

    Good Morning, I must admit, the response to my original posts was proof that the oldest profession in this world, contrary to popular belief, is that of critic! :-))) I will take that criticism as my own deficiency in expressing myself more clearly to those who seemed so offended. I did want...
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    Can science prove or disprove the existence of a Spiritual existence? God?

    I'm sure everyone on a Religious forum is waiting to hear about complex valued fields, or any scaler fields for that matter. As for the condescension, thank you, as it puts me in good company, for according to you, Max Planck, Werner Heisenberg, Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli, Niels Bohr, Erwin...
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    Can science prove or disprove the existence of a Spiritual existence? God?

    Hi Koldo, Scientifically, things that are part of the physical experience, namely the things we detect with our physical senses, whether directly or indirectly, only have specific identity at the point we attempt to measure or observe them. If we observe your handsome pooch, it is only in that...
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    Can science prove or disprove the existence of a Spiritual existence? God?

    Those who believe the Bible know that proof of God is an impossibility in this world. It is faith, not proof, that God requires of us. If God wanted to provide us "proof" of his existence, He would have not made us in His image; He would not have given us free will which is why this forum...
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