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  1. Lionel Refson

    EVERLASTING OLD COVENANT (Jew V Christian)

    But the first Blessing and Promise was not tribal, and they were universal ie made to the whole of humanity. Genesis also clearly states that God's promise was for everlasting generations (and by logical implication so too was the blessing)
  2. Lionel Refson

    EVERLASTING OLD COVENANT (Jew V Christian)

    Actually the Bible only has one promise if you apply the filter of tribal self-interest, something that God's first blessing by implication, ruled out.... ie God blessed Noah and his Sons equally!! Therefore the Bible IMHO only has one promise and one blessing. The rest are the words of tribes...
  3. Lionel Refson

    Why NOT Religion

    Theism 1 Atheism 0 or rather Theism=1 Atheism =0 or rather (Theism) 1+(Atheism) 0 /2 = 0.5 Sorry just doodling while thinking of the usual theism versus atheism debate. A proper mathematical formula for the aforesaid debate might be interesting.
  4. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    What didn't work? God blessed us, BUT we have freewill to do whatever we will as per Adam and Eve For me, It doesn't matter what is was designed for. It matters what it is now and what effect it has now. It doesn't matter if an Isis follower's views disgust liberal Muslim views or not, the...
  5. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    Given that God blessed us all to be fruitful and multiply, most world religions have at one time or another completely gone against this blessing. Countless lives lost and ruined in religious war , genocide etc Christian versus jew, Christian versus Christian, Christian versus Muslim, Jew...
  6. Lionel Refson

    Why Religion?

    Time to tear up the crusty old books and just be with God and not before time. God went out of God's way to say something to us all as represented by the sons of Noah ie all the peoples of the world. "Be fruitful and multiply" Nothing else matters. there is no sin, there is no redemption, There...
  7. Lionel Refson

    Why Religion?

    Completely disagree. Why would an All-Seeing God pick a messenger that would further split humanity. Perhaps God could not see that God's messenger would only achieve further divisiveness??
  8. Lionel Refson

    EVERLASTING OLD COVENANT (Jew V Christian)

    God only made one promise and one Blessing (in itself a kind of promise) ie after the Flood. To think that God made future contrary promises is to deny the Perfection of God. Ergo I have to conclude you are both arguing about the self-interested (from a tribal viewpoint) scribblings of human.
  9. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    Oh, absolutely correct!! In fact religion in any form takes us further away from God. It is just noise/interference!
  10. Lionel Refson

    Sorry to interrupt you but i would like your view in a pm on my beliefs, if you have time I...

    Sorry to interrupt you but i would like your view in a pm on my beliefs, if you have time I have read some of your posts and value your opinion. You might not like what I have written but I'm not trying to set up an argument. todah rabah Lionel Link is on here at...
  11. Lionel Refson

    EVERLASTING OLD COVENANT (Jew V Christian)

    The first Covenant and Blessing was at the time of Noah. All Covenants after this are false. Why? Because to assume that God made an error in His original Covenant and Blessing is saying God is not Perfect. Furthermore to argue that God selected one tribe over others at the time of...
  12. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    The Golden Thread
  13. Lionel Refson

    Noahide.

    I am not a Noahide but for me Genesis and Noah has given me these laws 1/We should be fruitful to self and others. We should encourage fruitfulness in self and others. Being fruitful to self means adopting the mental and physical condition of looking after oneself, guarding and evaluating one's...
  14. Lionel Refson

    One Of The Reasons I Find It Difficult To Take The Bible Seriously

    Read the Bible a very different way. Start at the beginning with one objective to find God, remembering that God is Perfection in all things Reject anything that is biased to one race or religion. Reject anything that is tribal or spurious You will get to Genesis 9:19 and then stop.ie after...
  15. Lionel Refson

    EVERLASTING OLD COVENANT (Jew V Christian)

    Let's not forget God's Blessing and Covenant to the sons of Noah, the only true Blessing and Covenant ever given, unless of course you believe that God somehow made an error with the words God spoke, in which case you would be a blasphemer. God spoke to the children of Noah. God never spoke...
  16. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    That cannot be correct. What you are implying is that God created many religions for us so that we can murder and kill each other over the milennia, in the name of one religion or another That implies that your God could not have foreseen the carnage that these religions would committ against...
  17. Lionel Refson

    What Can You Tell Me About God?

    God is Perfection, Omnipotent, Omniscient, All-Knowing, All-Seeing, Ineffable, Without Error, Without Contradiction, One....and because God gave us freewill, God does not operate on this World.
  18. Lionel Refson

    Spin the Wheel

    Religions do not teach truth, the truth within them is hidden by millenia of lies, plus self-serving doctrine, dogma, custom and tradition. All people within them have honesty, but it is not always their chosen path and yes i do agree with "we should accept all humanity as our family...
  19. Lionel Refson

    The Golden Thread

    My Book The Golden Thread simplifies this theology (book excerpt) Let us imagine ourselves as explorers and our task is to find the true essence of our Creator. We have before us the holy books, The Old Testament, The New Testament and the Koran, the three books of the Abrahamic faiths. We must...
  20. Lionel Refson

    The Golden Thread

    Of course, counter arguments to this conclusion could be .. “But in the Torah later The Israelites with God’s help killed all sorts of tribes.” These writings came later in the Torah. God/Allah who is without error nor mistake gave us these words first and would not have changed His mind, nor...
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