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  1. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Great! But could you give me an idea as to what similarity you were talking about when you made your post? What led you to your conclusion? I realize you may change your mind upon further research, but what was you initial impression regarding such similarity in principles? I am especially...
  2. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Could you state those principles, as you understand them. I'm interested in whether indeed the principles are the same.
  3. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    I am not understanding. Have you looked at the website? Can you explain your reaction? (It does not seem to me that you understand what Humanianity is.)
  4. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    So, what are your conclusions? Do you agree with me in what follows? Our religions are and have always been important, but they are still somewhat early in their development, reflecting that their creators, humans, are still quite early in their development compared to how they (we) may become...
  5. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Yes, you are correct. The definition used on this website is not what is in common use or commonly understood, and the website is clear about that. That is a contribution that this website is making, i.e., that what is commonly used and understood is actually not correct. The definition that...
  6. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Regarding the issue of the nature of Religion, I would suggest reviewing: "Religion"
  7. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    So, that is a good question. How would we answer it? We would have to look at the definition of each and see if they were essentially similar. On the website, it says: "Humanianity is currently a movement within all Religion, and within the human species in general, away from authoritarian...
  8. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Do you think that the CHALLENGE page of the HOME section describes some of what you are talking about?
  9. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    I don't understand. Can you please explain what you mean? Thanks!
  10. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Of course. My current intention is to hope that there can be further discussion here regarding the actual concepts on the website.
  11. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Everyone knows that currently there is not one religion for all of humanity. The website clearly describes Humanianity currently as a movement of varying degrees in most all of the religions, that ultimately could result in a single religion for humanity, that movement being called...
  12. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    This is your response to my response to your comment "I'm not sure if religious humanists have a religion or not. I understand that they've dropped their "religious trappings", whatever that means. I don't know what religious humanists are up to." My response to this was "Primarily they are up...
  13. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Edit: (Coincidentally, this post of mine was being worked on at the time you entered your last post, which I will not be able to respond to yet because of time.) I thought I should respond to this specific request for clarification. The whole idea is that most all the religions consist of...
  14. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Think about how people are likely to respond to the advocacy that those people who have done horrible things, e.g., killing children, should of course be quarantined to prevent danger to others, but should be given as good a life as possible while so quarantined. Those are not my associations...
  15. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    osgart, I think you and I are pretty close in our thinking, though there are some different ways in which we use certain words, probably. There are some things, though, that are not clear to me. Here I have difficulty because you are saying that you are trying to become like "something far...
  16. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    My simplest answer would be yes, in my way of looking at things, you would be manifesting a "religious" activity. But there are some complications and uncertainties in what you have written, perhaps easily explained. The statement "religion is reliance" is not understandable to me, nor I think...
  17. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    I understand that you consider my description of Religion to be insufficient, because it is different than what you consider Religion to be, and you reject the idea of rethinking that along the lines that I advocate for. I believe my conception of what Religion is is a helpful conception and an...
  18. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    The difference is the work on the self to improve the self, rather than just studying to find out what people do to improve themselves. It is the personal work on arriving at a rational-ethical philosophy that is consistent with the HUEP in the opinion of the person. Commitment to living...
  19. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    On the website, I have tried very hard to be clear about this, and I am hoping you will read this definition and set of supporting notes, so that we can begin to have a much better conversation in which we can clarify further our different conceptualizations and the reasons for them...
  20. Bill Van Fleet

    Humanianity: The Religion for Humanity??

    Exactly! Studying of Religion can be for the purpose of satisfying curiosity or being able to conduct a class in the history of religious ideas, etc. The practice of religion is activity for the purpose of self-improvement with regard to one's own ethical beliefs (basic ethical philosophy)...
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