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  1. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Well, that's not true at all. The Jewish Sabbath is not taught in the New Testament. Here's what scripture tells us about this Sabbath: "Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    So where do you go from there? You cannot possibly seek salvation by keeping commandments you have already broken. A broken commandment is not a kept commandment. Worse, there is no commandment that allows you to break other commandments, either once, or "once in a while". No matter what we...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Who makes this claim that Romans 7 is teaching that it is now alright to disobey God's law??? I haven't seen this person posting here. Let this person speak up and show their self, that we may slay this heresy together!!! :mad: I don't this this person is going to show up anytime soon, so...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I agree! However being alive in Christ is not being dead to God's law, and it is absolutely wrong to claim that we are disobeying God's law by obeying Christ. Did you not read the scriptures? That's something they Pharisees would think 3rd Angel. My friend, your argument is with scripture...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Absolutely correct! It's amazing, one verse and the whole notion that Christians must keep a Sabbath is reproved. I like the way Paul used marriage as a metaphor. Just as the death of a partner releases one from the marriage vow, so does the death of Christ release us from the law. We are now...
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    Famous Trinity Diagram

    My goodness @cataway! "The trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind..." ...and the Watchtower teaches the rosary on Thursday nights!! And let's not forget that as a brother in a Kingdom Hall you will be limited to two wives. Seriously though, I think you've been...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    A thoughtful question! I don't believe the bible is unequivocable on this, but that's just my personal opinion. Just giving my perspective (which I am absolutely sure someone will shoot down): I think a 24 hour period is an awfully Earth-centric view of God and much in line with how we...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Hi @YoursTrue, I would say either at the time he first considered sinning (spiritual), or at the time of the actual sin (physical act). My feeling is that both thought and deed likely occurred on the same day.
  9. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I agree! My consolation is that someone who is on the fence about Sabbath keeping, might read one of our posts and spare themselves from an unnecessary yolk, one even the apostles state was a burden to bear. Christ's yolk is so much lighter, but this sometime makes it difficult to believe that...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Thank you @Kenny. As always I enjoy reading your posts and agree with them whole heartedly. I just wish I had more time to respond with you. As it is, I have more than a few things to go over with @3rdAngel, including his last response to me, and I hope to get to it shortly, if not tonight...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I pointed out this error earlier: The "REMEMBER" in Exodus 20:8 is NOT pointing back to Genesis. The folly of this is that none of the Jews listening wouldn't have the faintest idea if their memories had to go back that far. Why? Because they WERE NOT ALIVE AT THE TIME! The "REMEMBER" simply...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    At creation, of course. The works of God are all good, so when God created man on the 6th day, man was at rest with God. God rested on the 7th day, but this was His rest, as man was already at rest with God. Yes, we needed rest, because when we sinned, we entered a state of UNREST with God...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    As expected, you throw the entire church to the curb. So when did the "true" church appear? After the Great Millerite Disappointment? Or perhaps just after the writings of Ellen White? Umm... have you read Ignatius's letters? I'm not sure how you can claim he was "outside the scriptures"...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    You provided no answer. Instead you simply repeat yourself. Here, let's look at it again, in full context: Can you explain these six other days ? "Six days you shall labor and do all your work." Exodus 20:9 I'm pretty sure I've posted this before and that it's simply been ignored. It's...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Ignatius is considered a church Father, a disciple of Peter by the vast majority of Christian churches. He provides a reliable historical record of the early church, and he wrote many letters against the "Judaizers" (Jewish Christians who mixed grace with following Jewish Law) much as our good...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    From my perspective, and given the responses, the vast majority of Christians: You are that guy quoting outside of scripture.
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I am still trying to find where these "...6 other days to do our work" come from. They were not addressed in your response. I have come to some tentative conclusions regarding your assertions, which may or may not be correct, based on what you've told us so far. I would much rather have you...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Well, it was you who asked us to show that the Lord's day is "Sunday", remember? You asked for scripture about "SUNDAY" when there is no "SUNDAY" in scripture. I pointed out that we don't celebrate the Lord's Day because it's "SUNDAY". We celebrate it because Jesus rose on the "FIRST" Day...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    You do not have to my friend. This is something we disagree on, and friends have disagreements. It's certainly nothing you would need to apologize for. 3rdAngel and I disagree on keeping a Sabbath, but I think he's spot on with the Trinity. So, if someone were to challenges me on it, I know I...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    That is completely understandable my friend, but it doesn't change the fact that the first day biblically is not equal to our first day secularly. As you know, Sunday is our secular first day, but there is no “biblical” Sunday because Sunday doesn't appear in anyone's bible. So no one is going...
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