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  1. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Huh, that’s interesting. The link between the autism spectrum and gender dysphoria. Is it due to both being “outside the norm” in terms of neurology? Or however it’s supposed to be phrased properly. You know what I mean, hopefully (And for the record I am absolutely not using the phrase...
  2. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Well that’s America. No offence but the rest of the world doesn’t treat medicine like you guys do. At least not to that extent In fact my government won’t even buy supplies of medication (in general) until it all proves to be cost efficient first. Not even kidding. If it can’t, too bad. We have...
  3. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    The unfortunate reality of medicine in general is that they can have unforeseen outcomes. And even an aspirin can very negatively affect some people. Take our over reliance on antibiotics, for instance. For decades this was casually prescribed by GPs without consequence. Now we understand that...
  4. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Fair enough. I’m no expert so I feel a little under qualified to “assess” studies, of any kind if I’m being honest lol
  5. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Yes. But I’ll admit to it being rather early in the morning here lol Also, maiming kids? Sorry but I’m not aware of trans surgery being performed on minors. At least not in most countries. Intersex surgery, sure. But that’s typically performed at birth. But as far as I’m aware, gender affirming...
  6. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Since further evaluation made by Sweden, which your article cites, the recommendations are that puberty blockers are still in use but only for a very select few who meet very stringent requirements. See here...
  7. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    But here’s the pertinent question. Were those traumatic experiences the actual cause of the gender dysphoria or did they occur due to gender dysphoria? What I mean by that is it’s not a good idea to look at two correlating factors and just presume one caused the other. Indeed the cited studies...
  8. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Well, then by all means cite them.
  9. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    I would imagine that having to undergo extensive evaluation under mental health professionals (a mandatory prerequisite in many countries to even qualify for puberty blockers in the first place) such pin pointing would occur by default. If in fact there were such instances :shrug: But...
  10. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Hmm I did try looking into the claim that European countries are reevaluating trans health care in minors. Many articles I could find on the matter are pretty politicised, so I had to do a bit more fact checking than I had hoped lol The closest I could find was that many European countries were...
  11. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    I mean okay, I can understand and agree with that in principle. The needs of the many outweigh the few. (Though I will always argue that we should be helping everyone, regardless of their number size.) My natural aversion to seperate camps may have something to do with the history of the whole...
  12. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    I can agree with that. It will be a tricky balance to find and I fear no camp will be 100% satisfied for quite a while. Hopefully we can come to a solution that benefits all. But I don’t think I’m qualified enough to come up with it. I shall leave that in the hands of governing bodies that...
  13. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    And trans women actual trans women are safer around cis men when they seek out shelters? Time usually divides the good and bad ideas. Not always. Incidentally my mother’s culture has recognised 3 genders for the last 6 thousand years
  14. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t have barriers and no doubt those details will be ironed out for many years to come. But you know, trans people who experienced trauma aren’t going to automatically attack other women in shelters just because we allow them entry. I mean obviously there might be...
  15. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Much worse? Usually. But with all things, there is nuance. Slurs being deemed socially inappropriate for example. One could point both to natural linguistic evolution and forced changes. Depending on the society and era Sometimes in order to progress society will be dragged kicking and...
  16. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Neither can all born women, to be completely honest. Biology accounts for all outcomes in human beings. To quote my old biology text book “It is scientifically impossible for a society of humans to be compromised of males who are all 100% male and females who are all 100% female.” That’s just...
  17. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    I have no issues with accepting a trans woman as a woman. If they fit the social and biological aspects (typically through surgery) then they are women. “Female” is perhaps more the biological term, really. Though that might be dependant on who you ask, I suppose The term “Woman” is not always...
  18. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    It’s not so much a 1 to 1 connection. Moreso an overall reflection that genitalia is not always the best identifying feature of one’s sex. Such features can be lost due various factors, one can be born with both and have one surgically removed (typically at the request of the parent/s) at birth...
  19. SomeRandom

    Jordan Peterson and Bill Maher...

    Yeah One is biological and one refers to the social aspects associated with the presentation of feminine and masculine (which differs by culture.) It was a big topic of discussion in my social studies class
  20. SomeRandom

    Shakespeare too sexual for Florida’s schools?

    Okay This is an example that is commonly seen displayed in huge pictures over the underwear sections in the stores here
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