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  1. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    You are comparing with another verse that has nothing to do with. A false comparison. I looked at many other verses of the Quran. whenever Allah uses اذا and wants that to be a condition for something else, He puts the whole, in one verse. Here are some examples: إِذَاۤ أُلۡقُوا۟ فِیهَا...
  2. InvestigateTruth

    What if these Christian beliefs are not true?

    Yap, but the Quran says, Abraham thrown in fire, and instead of burning Him, it turned to a Garden. Although Abraham eventually died though. So, i don't know why He didn't die in the fire, when His body was an ordinary human body.
  3. InvestigateTruth

    What if these Christian beliefs are not true?

    Because people like @Link believe a true Prophet could not be killed. They don't think, what matters are their teachings. Yet, people like @Link apparently are Shia, so, they believe Imam Hussein Head was cut off. They have an inconsistent theology.
  4. InvestigateTruth

    What if these Christian beliefs are not true?

    It is not so. Imam Hussein Head was cut off. before that, Ali's head was destroyed by Sword. Before that, Muhammad died of poison. Later, every Imam died of poisoning or something. As Muhammad said, I am a human like you. Jesus, and Abraham were also just human. Are you familiar with how to...
  5. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Commentators have interpreted this verse in two ways: one is that "كَاذِبَةٌ" (kāthibah) is taken as a verbal noun meaning falsehood. In Arabic, sometimes this form comes to mean a verbal noun, like "عَافِيَةٌ" (ʿāfiyah). They have said that "لَيسَ لِوَقْعَتِهَا كاذِبَةٌ" is an independent...
  6. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Generally, Muslim scholars interpreted verse 26:2 in two different ways. The first interpretation: His saying "كَاذِبَةٌ" (kāthibah) is a noun that has come in the form of an active participle, so "كَاذِبَةٌ" (kāthibah) means "falsehood," like "عَافِيَةٌ" (ʿāfiyah) means "well-being" and...
  7. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Actually found a Tafseer from Al-ghomi: إذا وقعت الواقعة إذا حدثت القيامة سماها واقعة لتحقق وقوعها . (2) ليس لوقعتها كاذبة نفس كاذبة . القمي قال القيامة هي حق . (3) خافضة قال بأعداء الله رافعة قال لاولياء الل...
  8. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Right. So, they translated it in two ways: Some used an "And", as you say. But some instead of "And", added "ing" "obeying its Sustainer, as in truth it must " "And attentive to her Lord in fear" https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/84/2/ Either way, these two verses do not connect with...
  9. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    @Link I suggest, let's look at similar verses 84:1 -2" إِذَا ٱلسَّمَآءُ ٱنشَقَّتْ وَأَذِنَتْ لِرَبِّهَا وَحُقَّتْ When the heaven is split asunder obeying its Lord as it must See, how these verses are? Here is what I am trying to say. It is not like, if in the beginning of a verse there...
  10. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    To me it makes sense. You read it too literally. My view is, these are allusions. Not to be taken too literally. Otherwise what benefit it has to say, when it happens no one can deny it? You scaped answering this question, which I asked you before. How that adds any value, or guidance to...
  11. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    But, I am saying, the verses are making allusion that: when the event came to pass, the Messenger will tell them, this is the event: "There is no lying about its happening" As I showed you, Baha'u'llah did so. This is consistent with the other verse that, you said it is about Rajat. To me...
  12. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Let me explain it this way: Most People think, Judgement Day is a lie. It is a fairytale. But when it happens, and announced to them, then, it was not a lie. It was the the truth, even if no one believes it.
  13. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    It says, there is no lie about its occurrence. Not that, when it happens, no body denys it. I think you are reading more than what it says. 1. When the inevitable event takes place 2. There is no lying about its befalling 3. Some abased, some Exalted These verse are in short form and...
  14. InvestigateTruth

    What if these Christian beliefs are not true?

    in our scriptures, "before His Death", often is interpreted End of Dispensation. For example Noah lived 950 years, means His death came after 950 years. This is the duration of His Dispensation or Covenant, before next Covenant is made by Abraham. Likewise, Baha'u'llah being Return of Christ...
  15. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Maniul Akhbar: Ibne Walid has narrated from Saffar from Ahmad bin Muhammad from Uthman bin Isa from Salih bin Mitham from Abaya Asadi that he heard Amirul Momineen (a.s.) say reclining on a pillow, while I stood before him: “We will definitely construct a pulpit in Egypt and destroy Damascus...
  16. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    I know why Shias may have doubts about such Hadithes that says, Day Judgement is the Day of Mahdi. it is because they are taught that, there will be these events: 1. Mahdi comes 2. Rajat begins 3. after a long time, Judgement Day comes. so, now, you do not see how, the Judgement Day can be...
  17. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    You did not read the Hadith, did you? You seem to conveniently ignore it. It was about the term "yawm Al-Deen" And showed it to you that, according to Hadithes, it means the Mahdi. All Muslims agree, Yawmi Deen, is Judgment Day. Hadith says, it is the Day of Mahdi. Thus, it is...
  18. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    @Link I will get back to your posts above later. But i have a question for you. If we continue reading Surah of Waqiah, until we get the verse: هَـٰذَا نُزُلُهُمۡ یَوۡمَ ٱلدِّین "This will be their welcome on the Day of Judgment" 56:56 How many Judgement Day ( يوم الدين) are there in the...
  19. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    I see it more like: "There is no lying about its befalling" The verses after that, then describes the event, explaining what is it that will happen. There is no lying about those signs that will come to pass. It means, God is testifying about the truth of the Day of Resurrection. This my...
  20. InvestigateTruth

    What is the day of judgment per Quran?

    Right, so, in the Surrah of the Waqia it is the same. خَافِضَةࣱ رَّافِعَةٌ ۝٣ Abasing (some), exalting (others) It means, when the Promised Day comes, some will be abased and some will be exalted. Those who would disbelieve in the new Revelation are abased and those who believe and follow...
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