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  1. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Yes, that would be a magic.
  2. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Oh c'mon, that's silly. it is evolutionary science making the claim about emergent awareness, the onus is therefore on them to explain the first step in the process, if there was one?
  3. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Only indirectly as a matter of logic, unless you can prove to me that awareness arose out of a non-aware essence at some earlier stage of the emergent awareness process.
  4. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Ok, so it is emergent process all the way down, absolute non-awareness does not exist?
  5. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Ok, forget the word atheism, let's go with science, if you are into science, you are using the left hemisphere predominately, whether you are reading about it, or doing it, so watch the video please, it will be profoundly enlightening for you.
  6. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    But you totally are ignoring my question, what is the precursor of animal consciousness? And please watch the video above?
  7. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Ok, for all atheistic inclined members, I know this video runs over an hour, but do yourselves a favor, and watch it right through, even if you do it in increments over time. and you will discover why it is you are atheists. The education system has biased your natural brain function to favor...
  8. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Arising out of what, non-awareness or just more basic/less evolved universal awareness?
  9. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Well that's silly.
  10. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    As I said, if they are not facts, then science would be able to show how conscious can come from non-consciousness, if not, then I consider it a fact.
  11. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Understood, God bless you dear IANC, best wishes to you in your life's endeavours.
  12. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Then you allow there may be some reality represented by the concept 'God' that may exist, but none yet that is credible. How about pantheism? The universe, seen and unseen, known and unknown, is the reality represented by 'God'. "Atheism holds to the belief that the physical world is all that...
  13. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Thank you for sharing your story. I also had stops and starts to my religious beliefs, until one time I read some book of the Vedic tradition on meditation. I began to practice and soon realized that the Christian tradition of bible belief and attending church services regularly is the...
  14. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Pedantry notwithstanding, the point is if you believe in, or not believe there is, a God, then you must have some idea of the concept God. Do you not agree it would be ridiculous to say I believe there is, or I don't believe there is a unicorn, without having some idea of the reality...
  15. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Yes, I am aware you do not do any serious religious practice, so it follows naturally that you cannot understand the reality represented by the concept of divine awareness, but what do you expect, you do not seek the reality represented by the concept of universal awareness. If you seriously...
  16. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    But all words are concepts, reality is always on the other side of them, if I use the concept 'awareness', you should understand the reality the concept represents, yes, is that not a fact?
  17. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    I am using the concept of consciousness in the sense of awareness, not necessarily just human mind awareness, but pure awareness, the state of awareness. So human beings are conscious, but how did this awareness arise at the very beginning of human creation? What consciousness guided the...
  18. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    The fact is gnostic, that consciousness cannot arise from non-consciousness, just like something cannot come from nothing, if you can't acknowledge that science cannot disprove these facts, then there is nothing to discuss.
  19. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    I see now why you're misunderstanding the logic of my line of questioning all along, if the Universe is not conscious, as you believe is the case, then human consciousness (and all consciousness) arose from unconsciousness. Do you see that?
  20. Ben Dhyan

    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    You are being purposely obtuse, my question is clear and to the point, may God be the judge as to which of us is being dishonest. Good day sir, and God bless you dear gnostic.
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