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  1. It Aint Necessarily So

    Evolution, maybe someone can explain?

    It does to me. Seeking comfort drives behavior. We run from the rain and bask in the sun. When thirsty, we drink. When bored, we seek stimulation. An atheist is somebody comfortable living without a god belief or a religion. A theist is somebody who has some need met by those, and who would...
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    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    So they hope, but that happens for very few, and they never seem to notice. I think that a larger part of MAGA are people who know they'll never be wealthy or even financially secure, and who have been convinced by conservative indoctrination media that that is not because of their choices, but...
  3. It Aint Necessarily So

    'We Have Plenty of Guns If Trump Loses'

    His policy to turn Springfield, Ohio into a bastion of terrorism and stochastic violence seems to be working pretty well if you like that kind of thing, but otherwise, not so much. And that resulted from what spewed from his mouth. His policy to illegally retain power didn't fare very well...
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    Evolution, maybe someone can explain?

    The night is young. Just wait a few tens of millions of years, and if there is still life on earth, some of it will be non-bats that descended from bats. Your perspective is too brief. Acorns remain acorns even after planted - at first. If that was true when he said it, it no longer is. The...
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    My scientific refutation of anthropogenic climate change

    You might be trolling us, but I'll take you at face value: Why do you think that you can successfully refute the consensus of the community of climate scientists if you "don't know much about climate science"? Why do you think celebrities are relevant to a scientific argument? When you say...
  6. It Aint Necessarily So

    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    Are you familiar with the word shibboleth? It's "a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people" When you use the phrase "Democrat party," it identifies you as a consumer of conservative indoctrination media. "Democrat Party is an epithet and pejorative for...
  7. It Aint Necessarily So

    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    Thanks for that. Broadly speaking, for me, American conservatives fall into two groups: those who denounce Trump and those who do not, which can range from those giving tacit consent to who and what he is and those that explicitly serve as his apologists. And it's a litmus test for me. If one...
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    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    The Abrahamic religions have no answers. They are NOT religions of unity, peace, or love as they all clam. They have existed on the earth for millennia and have done little to promote unity and much to cause division. It is only the humanist program that has made any progress in that direction...
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    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    You use the term MAGA differently than I do. In a concurrent thread, I wrote, "For me, MAGA conservatives are Trump apologists, whereas non-MAGA conservatives like the Cheneys and The Lincoln Project consider Trump a threat to America and denounce him." That was written in response to a...
  10. It Aint Necessarily So

    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    You are not a critical thinker. You're a faith-based thinker. You have your own game: spouting feckless platitudes about peace and unity. And you've seen how little they value it, yet you keep repeating it like next time might be different.
  11. It Aint Necessarily So

    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    "And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid ..." It's all so unfair for you MAGA, isn't it? Here's another grievance for MAGA to whine about. Agreed. He's barely conscious. Then do your own searching. We're not here to do that for you. Then be sad and afraid. You did it to...
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    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    No, you didn't. There's no evidence you read it. I am rebutting you. What? More fortune cookies? Good luck with that. This is a nice illustration of how feckless what you call a plan actually is. It's just words, and you expect that people will respect them and carry them out. They won't...
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    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    No, I don't. My confidence in empiricism comes from two observations: [1] It works in my daily life. When I make decision based in properly evaluating the evidence of the experiences of daily life, I am rewarded, whereas, if I were to make decisions based in faith -based beliefs, the outcomes...
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    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    No, I don't, if by faith you mean unjustified belief as in gods and angels and afterlives. My trust in empiricism and my rejection of religious-type faith is supported by the success of the former and the uselessness of unfalsifiable beliefs. Yes, but not all thinking is good thinking. You...
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    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    No for the experienced critically thinking empiricist. Such a person no longer has the ability to choose to believe something and then believe it. You might consider that a defect. I consider it a virtue. Most good people don't believe in your god. You probably consider yourself a good person...
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    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    I think you're losing track of the discussion, which began with, "We have exactly zero evidence of any other conscious beings," and you asked what one would expect to see. Now, you're implying that you can't detect consciousness, which is supporting the original comment. We can only detect our...
  17. It Aint Necessarily So

    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    You can't verify that any of that has anything to do with a god. It was a mundane life lived by a typical human being promoting his religious beliefs. It was evidence that a human being can live such a life. It was no more distinguished than my former pastor's life, who is also a missionary and...
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    If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

    But it does mean that there is no reason to believe that. That's fine, and compatible with agnostic atheism, which doesn't assert that gods don't exists, but says that if they exist but don't manifest as gods then there is no reason to think about them, much less worship them or obey what...
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    Why Didn't the Universe Always Exist?

    Isn't that commonplace in these threads? It invariably comes from a faith-based thinker who has accepted a belief that causes him to gravitate toward, promote, and defend ideas that he thinks support his minority viewpoint. Interestingly, not all believers do this. We have a population of what...
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    Swift endorsing Harris...

    Only from MAGA as best I can tell, and their reaction to Swift is irrelevant to the outcome of the election, since those people will all vote for Trump whatever Swift does. You seem to underestimate the hold she has on her huge fan base. I gave you the data that shows her immense and growing...
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