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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Hi Eli G. Eli G. Said : “The truth is that we Jehovah's Witnesses only study and believe what the Scriptures teach. You apparently forgot that Jehovah never taught the Israelites about an afterlife. He told them things like this: Dan. 12:13 “But as for you, go on to the end. You will rest...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    THE ANCIENT JUDEO-CHRISTIAN CONCEPT THAT AN INTELLIGENT SPIRIT EXISTS WITHIN THE BODY THAT EXISTS INDEPENDENT OF THE BODY Hi @Bree and @cataway and @Eli G and @Terrywoodenpic 1) Jehovahs Witness theology regarding spiritless bodies cannot survive in historical Judeo-Christianity but must...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Bree asked Terrywoodpic : “So what determines if a piece of writing should be considered part of the 'holy writings' in your view?” (post #15) Terrywoodenpic responded : “I would suggest that that is impossible to define. As in the past, we choose what ever meets our criterion and...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    POST TWO OF TWO Original meaning : At the time that the Holy One, be blessed, was about to create the world, he decided to fashion all the spirits which would in due course be dealt out to the children of men, and each spirit was formed into the exact outline of the body she was destined to...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    POST ONE OF TWO TWO JEHOVAHS WITNESS THEORIES Bree said : “The word 'spirit' is used in the bible in various ways...sometimes the word means 'wind' and as you point out from the book of Enoch (not a christian text btw) it means breath.” These two claims are, historically, incoherent. For...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    POST THREE OF THREE In another version of this story from the Apocryphon of Ezekial, the same story is told thusly. “What then does the just judge do? Realizing in what manner both had been joined, he places the lame man on the blind man and examines both under the lash. And they are unable to...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    POST TWO OF THREE In explaining the relationship of this life to the pre-mortal realm of spirits, the messiah explained “After we went forth from our home, and came down to this world, and came into being in the world in bodies, we were hated and persecuted, not only by those who are...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    POST ONE OF THREE Hi @Bree and readers. It occurred to me that examples from the early Judeo-Christian literature would be helpful in demonstrating the value of simply reading what the early Christians said they believed rather than simply offering competing interpretations of texts. I...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Hi @Bree – The holidays are here and I apologize for not responding earlier. Bree said : “You would agree that the belief of Jesus Christ and the early Jews was based on the Hebrew Scriptures, correct? We cant deny that.” I think the Jews were like the various Jewish movement and Christian...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Hi @Bree 1) The concept of creating and saving an entirely different individual than the original Bree said : “Yes i see what you are saying and agree that it makes sense that, if the spirit was something separate to the body, then it seems perfectly logical that the spirit could be put into...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Hi @Bree Clear said in post #3 : My question has to do with individuals who do NOT have physical brains and thus, cannot have personalities and likes and talents that are associated with physical brains. For example, an infant born with Zika virus may have no functioning higher brain areas at...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    Hi @Bree ; thanks for the insight. Bree, your answer regards "The mentally handicapped do have their own personalities.". Although one can then ask what sort of "personality" an individual born without a brain has, the individuals who "have their own personalities" is not the group I am...
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    Resurrection of the mentally incapacitated in Jehovahs Witness resurrection theory

    My question seeks to compare Christian theology that believes in an intelligent spirit placed into a body with Christian theology that believes there is no spirit inside the biological body. I was sent and read a pamphlet sent to me from a Jehovahs Witness friend regarding the world mankind...
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    Catholic - Christian (Same or Different)

    Hi @DNB and @metis DNB said : “Usage defined Canon.” Metis replied ; “False again, and we know this to be true as there were records kept of the general process and results as it went on for over 1/2 a century…” (post #111) DNB replied : “Yes, but 90% of the decision was based on tradition -...
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    In the Beginning.....

    Hi @ACEofALLaces ACEofALLaces said : “In the Christian Bible, it starts out, "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", with the inference being that there was "nothing" before God created it. Ok, well that brings the question to my mind at least, SINCE God is said to be Himself...
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    Bible Alone.. For Catholic's

    Hi @Dogknox20 , @URAVIP2ME , and @Wildswanderer Dogknox20 repeated the talking point : "Clear your information is mixed up! Jesus established ONE Church on rock..." 1) The Church in Rome which engaged in oppression and slavery and sought for political power and riches was not the "ONE...
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    Bible Alone.. For Catholic's

    Hi @Dogknox20 and @URAVIP2ME Dogknox20 said to @URAVIP2ME : " URAVIP2ME I must point out there was only ONE (1) Christian congregation until 1054 A.D.! That ONE Congregation was the ONLY Church Jesus established, it is the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church none other!" (POST #11) Clear...
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    Bible Alone.. For Catholic's

    Hi @Dogknox20 Dogknox20 said to @URAVIP2ME : " URAVIP2ME I must point out there was only ONE (1) Christian congregation until 1054 A.D.! That ONE Congregation was the ONLY Church Jesus established, it is the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church none other!" (POST #11) Ths is false...
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    Ask Anything about Me or my Religion (Restored Gospel/Mormonism).

    Hi @Jacob Samuelson The restorational movement : I love the concept of the restorational movement and it's attempt to return to the earliest version of Christian worldviews on base doctrines, whether that attempt is made through revelation or through historical discovery by historians. An...
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    The Protestant Bible is flawed

    @CrochetOverCoffee said "As for the books commonly called the Apocrypha, those who organized the books of the Bible into a single volume had certain criteria for including the ones they did, and excluding those they did not. Among these were contradictions of plain doctrine, frivolous details...
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