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  1. Clear

    Jewish Messiah

    POST TWO OF TWO 4) Regarding Matrilineality and the statement by historians Rabbi Cohen, Rabbi grabe, Edwards, etc that it is not biblical, but instead is another innovation of the Rabbis. Rosends responded : “And Cohen’s statement would fly in the face of biblical text. You realize that...
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    Jewish Messiah

    POST ONE OF TWO 1) Regarding names used anciently: Rosends said : “Alexander” is not Jewish by any stretch yet many Jews have the name” Clear said : I agree that Alexander is not Jewish by any stretch, but we are not talking about relatively modern times are we. We are talking about Judea and...
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    Jewish Messiah

    REGARDING PSALMS 16:22 AND THE VERSION PRODUCED BY THE JEWISH MASORETES VERSUS THE ORIGINAL (OR EARLIER VERSION) Ebionite said : “You don't have any answer to the question of who Psalm 22 and 69 are about.” (post #222) IndigoChild5559 responded : “Let's look first at psalm 22. It's about...
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    Jewish Messiah

    POST TWO OF TWO 7) THERE WERE NON JEWS WHO LIVED AMONG JEWS ANCIENTLY I repeated that we agree there were non-jews living among Jews (some converted, some did not) as I said below in post #193 : Post #193 Clear said : I STRONGLY AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT ADMITTING THAT THERE WERE MITAYAHADIM...
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    Jewish Messiah

    POST ONE OF TWO Hello @rosends 1) Regarding names used anciently: Rosends said : “Alexander” is not Jewish by any stretch yet many Jews have the name” I agree that Alexander is not Jewish by any stretch, but we are not talking about relatively modern times are we. We are talking about...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Wow Eli G. Kudos to you for recognizing descent from the mother was one of the later innovations created by the leaders of the emerging Rabbinic Judaism. I suspect very few people even know this sort of history. Clear
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    Jewish Messiah

    Hi @rosends Rosends said : “intuiting ethnicity from names is rife with problems.” (post #199) I agree, especially in modern times. But we are not talking about modern times. We are speaking of specific historic periods. Look at the names of the bible in the early periods. While "Shlomo"...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Hi @rosends Summary of the discussion so far : Post #173 IndigoChild5559 claimed the words “Hebrews”, “Israelites” and “Jews” were interchangeable. Post #174 Clear disagreed, saying historically, “Israelite" referred to the 12 tribes while "Jews" referred first to the tribe of Judah and later...
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    Jewish Messiah

    1) Regarding the Claim that the Kingdom of Judah was an ethically “Pure” state having not a single gentile in it Clear said : “It doesn't really matter what country the pagan/strangers living among the israelites came from (though prisoner lists were said to contain many greek names).” (post...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Hi @rosends 1)REGARDING WHETHER NON-JEWS (PAGANS) WERE PRESENT AMONG JEWS Clear said : “Mityahadim” were non-Jews (Gentiles) who professed to be Jews or became Jews, mostly because of fear of Jews they lived among as Ester 8:17 tells us “ And many people of other nationalities became Jews...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Hi @rosends; 1)Regarding the claim that “Hebrew=Israelite=Jew”. Clear said : “A "Jew" is, historically, from the single tribe of Judah and it came to signify the kingdom of Judah. A "Jew" may also be an adherent to the "Jewish" religion. These are two different things.” Rosends said : “No...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Hi @Rachel Rugelach 1) Historically, the term ”Israelite” is not the same as “Jew” IndigoChild5559 claimed : "Hebrews=Israelite=Jews". (post #32 – thread on the Didache) Clear replied : “2) The ancient term "Hebrews" and "Israelites" does NOT simply mean "Jews". A "Jew" is, historically...
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    Jewish Messiah

    1) Regarding IndigoChild5559s’ personal theory that Hebrew=Israelite=Jews IndigoChild5559 said : “I don't give a flying leap what the Didache says. I care what the Tanakh says. (post #175) You are confused. No one referred to the Didache. That is simply the name of the link where you introduced...
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    Jewish Messiah

    Readers and @paarsurrey : This silly claim that the term "Israelite" (which refers to 12 tribes or Kingdoms) and "Jews" (which refers to the kingdom of JUDAH) has already been debunked here at the following link : (click on the blue text and it will take you to the thread where you first...
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    The Didache

    POST TWO OF TWO Regarding a woman punished in the afterlife for Abortion : “And the angels said to me, “She begrudged giving her milk but also cast infants into the rivers.” The Greek Apocalypse of Ezra 5:3-4; Speaking of women in the judgment the text say : “And he saw in a most obscure...
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    The Didache

    POST ONE OF TWO 1) Regarding the proper way to disengage from a lost debate : Readers : There are much classier and much better ways to react to losing a debate. There was no intent on my part to embarrass or belittle. A second point. IF you no longer wish to converse with another poster...
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    The Didache

    Hi @IndigoChild5559 , @Kenny , @Rival , etc. 1) Regarding IndigoChild5559s' claim that hebrews and Israelites means the same as the word "Jews". @IndigoChild5559 claims : “Your posts are far too difficult to reply to…” I agree that you are having a very difficult time replying to my posts...
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    The Didache

    Clear said : " 1) Simply living among Judah (Jews) does not make one of Judah (a "Jew") While there was always a mixture of tribes and nations, this mixing of nations and kingdoms did not magically create a monolithic group of "Jews". For example, greeks and pagans also lived in the area...
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    The Didache

    Hi @IndigoChild5559 IndigoChild5559 said : "You apparently missed the part of my post where I informed that after the fall of the northern Kingdom of Israel, that refugees fled south to the Kingdom of Judah. So from then on, you can say that the Kingdom of Judah included ALL of the tribes."...
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    The Didache

    IndigoChild5559 said : "I never said that "ephraimite" refers to all jews. Ephraim, because it was the largest of the tribes of the northern Kingdom of Israel, refers to THAT Kingdom. I never even mentioned Ephraim, so I don't know why you have brought it up. What I said, which the Tanakh...
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