Hi Ben,
Interesting, of the four Books, the Book of Matthew does seem to portray Jesus most harshly toward Jewish leaders.
Still, I think the teachings about avoiding excess legalism are good for both Christians and Jews. My experience is that Jewish people vary in this. I had a dear Hasidic...
Hi Viole,
I was just showing you that the Bible refers to concepts of time in ways that seem to have some commonality with your scientific view. It was just for you to get the "spirit" of it if you were interested - not analyze it. :smile:
Hi Viole,
"Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you." Jeremiah 1:5
"Whatever is has already been and what will be has been before". Ecclesiastes 3:15
:smiley:
Hi, many concepts are boggling, even mind-blowing. For example, what would the universe be expanding into? As humans, we try to establish reference points, and define things relative to our reference points, very much like parables. At some point, despite all our science, we realize that we...
A key point is that God is not "anything we can make up". God made us up. Pssst, don't tell anyone but it's actually we humans who are the fairies in the garden. ;)
Agreed. God says: "I am".
Well, I have also heard the saying that God cannot lie. I guess the real point is what value is there in speaking about God in this way? I.e. trying to find things that are self-contradictions etc. So, from that perspective, I do see it as "silly". I think the spiritual perspective is to focus...
He's probably just saying that to say it's a "miracle" for God to do something, is not right because it's not a miracle from God's perspective. However, when someone says "God performs a miracle", they refer to the human perspective. I think it's just semantics. It's true though, that the word...
Hi Carlita, I can see it is confusing but I think Ben was just making that point that "miracles" are from human perspective only. As you say he chose to use the term "miracle of God" to make the point so it may seem confusing - but I know what he meant. It's also a good point that the universe...
Yes, that's the point. For those who believe (as you and I do) in God, and that God is a spiritual being (Shekinah), God is beyond all scientific concepts such as matter, universe, space-time. Granted, we don't "understand", except by faith, yet those of faith contend that it (faith) is actually...
Hi Carlita, I know what you mean but I also know what Ben means. Jesus taught that nothing is impossible for God. Mark 10:27 So, it's not a "miracle" in relation to God when God does something. To us humans we use the word "miracle" to mean that it's something a human can't do. So I agree with...
Hi, if I can pitch in here. Ben I think Viole is sincere in her question about the difficulty of discussing anything related to cause-effect outside of space-time. What's ironic is that you both share this in common. I think we're all actually somewhat on the same page here.
Physicists are...
Hi, I know what you mean but when the "parable" becomes the "practice" to a great extent, the truth of God can be clouded and modern monotheists can become uncomfortable with such elements in worship and rightly so IMHO. I'm not talking about beautiful decorations like Christmas trees (no...
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Roman emperors were called "son of god", (divi filius). The name of the pagan god Jupiter means sky "father" (pater is Latin for father). Christians refer to God as "Father in Heaven", Jupiter was...