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    Is the Bible Just a Myth?

    Well, science tells us that our solar system is about 5 billion years old. If I'm not mistaken, if the Bible were interpreted literally then it would say that the earth is 5777 years old (e.g. the Jewish New Year). I know there are some that hold to this literal interpretation but I don't think...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi Ken, Let's consider this in the context of the Trinity doctrine. If a Trinitarian believes that they can have a personal relationship directly with God then are you not relating to God as one Personal Being? This is part of my point about the Trinity doctrine, is the doctrine really even...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi, do you believe in existence, yet believe that there is no intelligent Being who created all - that it's all just "here" with no explanation?
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Again, I view that as a manner of speaking / language of the day. I think you're getting too hung up on terminology (which ironically is kind of my point about the Trinity doctrine). I believe that we are each one being in bodily form. The ability to reason and to consider matters beyond the...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi Ken, :smile: Again, "soul" is from Greek philosophy and Scriptures can use language of the day to convey a point. You may just think this way, because it has been habitual for years. (Didn't St. Paul receive Greek training?) What is the "soul"? Just as creation stays in existence by God's...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi, if you read my previous posts you'll find that we may have beliefs somewhat in common. I believe that all creation exists at all times by God's will but I don't see creation as an "extension" of or "part" of God. However, our beliefs may not be that far apart because what you mean by...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Well God Bless and thanks for very thought-provoking discussion and please do chime back in if any further thoughts. :smile:
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    , I think of it as "our life" or "our being" has eternally been in His hands even before he "brought us forth" - perhaps something like that. I don't view it that way. Some Christians believe that after death the "soul" awaits reunion with the body at resurrection. (That teaching actually sounds...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi Ken, That consideration/aspect is not important to me, so for that reason "I'm out". Sorry, just joking. I watch "Shark Tank" too much :smile: More seriously, see below. I don't see such a distinction between physical and spiritual in that all exists because God keeps all in existence. For...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi Ken, By the way, if your talking about the "soul", I think that Christian belief in the soul was influenced by and/or originated with traditional Greek philosophy (correct me if I'm wrong). However, to answer your question. Let's try to step aside from our preconceived notions. I believe in...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Yes, consider that perhaps it's really a "harmless fib" in that it helps pagans to understand the one true God, but monotheists may not take the doctrine as seriously as even they themselves think. I.e. Do Trinitarian Christians seek a personal relationship with the one true God or do they seek...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Yes!! See my previous post. I realized, they don't call it "Roman Catholicism" for nothing. :smile:
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Yes, excellent question. I do have questions. Some scholars, including a Catholic priest, think that Jesus may be a mythological character! I haven't gotten to quite that level of concern/skepticism. I currently identify culturally/philosophically in terms of love of God and neighbor with...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    You are very insightful. I encourage Christians to read modern Jewish literature because many Jewish scholars are now familiar with the NT and they can help Christians to take their blinders off a bit and see that they (the Jews) have sought to stand true to God's warning not to follow false...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi, I started this thread in the more general Biblical Debates area for a wider discussion. Suggest go there. Thank you. :smile: Coder. The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    Hi, yes if you see the OP, it actually agrees with you in a sense. You see, most Christians believe that God is a Trinity (complex) and I believe more in the oneness of God - that's what I mean by "non-Trinitarian". The Christian Trinity doctrine states that God exists in "three persons". You...
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    The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)

    I propose that the "terminology" used in Scripture may itself be "parabolic" (a parable) using "father gods" and "son gods" (e.g. Saturn-Jupiter) terminology (in some places) to relate the reality of the _one_ true God becoming man to pagans who had pervasive concepts of "father gods" and "son...
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    Jesus adherents only: How is a ''separate' trinity concept, not polytheism?

    In the created universe, there is no way to measure or speak of time without referring to events. E.g. one second is a tick of a clock and we have a general concept of how long one second is relative to other events. What do you believe about the existence of time before God created any being or...
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    Jesus adherents only: How is a ''separate' trinity concept, not polytheism?

    I think Jews were persecuted and they resisted (admirably) the Romans forcing statues of their gods in their temples and synagogues. I think many religions in Roman Republic/Empire were persecuted, perhaps mainly because the Roman leaders wanted the blessings of their gods for power etc. and...
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