Well, science tells us that our solar system is about 5 billion years old. If I'm not mistaken, if the Bible were interpreted literally then it would say that the earth is 5777 years old (e.g. the Jewish New Year). I know there are some that hold to this literal interpretation but I don't think...
Hi Ken,
Let's consider this in the context of the Trinity doctrine. If a Trinitarian believes that they can have a personal relationship directly with God then are you not relating to God as one Personal Being? This is part of my point about the Trinity doctrine, is the doctrine really even...
Again, I view that as a manner of speaking / language of the day. I think you're getting too hung up on terminology (which ironically is kind of my point about the Trinity doctrine). I believe that we are each one being in bodily form. The ability to reason and to consider matters beyond the...
Hi Ken, :smile:
Again, "soul" is from Greek philosophy and Scriptures can use language of the day to convey a point. You may just think this way, because it has been habitual for years. (Didn't St. Paul receive Greek training?) What is the "soul"? Just as creation stays in existence by God's...
Hi, if you read my previous posts you'll find that we may have beliefs somewhat in common. I believe that all creation exists at all times by God's will but I don't see creation as an "extension" of or "part" of God. However, our beliefs may not be that far apart because what you mean by...
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I think of it as "our life" or "our being" has eternally been in His hands even before he "brought us forth" - perhaps something like that.
I don't view it that way. Some Christians believe that after death the "soul" awaits reunion with the body at resurrection. (That teaching actually sounds...
Hi Ken, That consideration/aspect is not important to me, so for that reason "I'm out". Sorry, just joking. I watch "Shark Tank" too much :smile: More seriously, see below.
I don't see such a distinction between physical and spiritual in that all exists because God keeps all in existence. For...
Hi Ken,
By the way, if your talking about the "soul", I think that Christian belief in the soul was influenced by and/or originated with traditional Greek philosophy (correct me if I'm wrong).
However, to answer your question.
Let's try to step aside from our preconceived notions. I believe in...
Yes, consider that perhaps it's really a "harmless fib" in that it helps pagans to understand the one true God, but monotheists may not take the doctrine as seriously as even they themselves think. I.e. Do Trinitarian Christians seek a personal relationship with the one true God or do they seek...
Yes, excellent question. I do have questions. Some scholars, including a Catholic priest, think that Jesus may be a mythological character! I haven't gotten to quite that level of concern/skepticism. I currently identify culturally/philosophically in terms of love of God and neighbor with...
You are very insightful. I encourage Christians to read modern Jewish literature because many Jewish scholars are now familiar with the NT and they can help Christians to take their blinders off a bit and see that they (the Jews) have sought to stand true to God's warning not to follow false...
Hi, I started this thread in the more general Biblical Debates area for a wider discussion. Suggest go there. Thank you. :smile: Coder.
The Oneness of God (non-Trinitarian View)
Hi, yes if you see the OP, it actually agrees with you in a sense. You see, most Christians believe that God is a Trinity (complex) and I believe more in the oneness of God - that's what I mean by "non-Trinitarian". The Christian Trinity doctrine states that God exists in "three persons". You...
I propose that the "terminology" used in Scripture may itself be "parabolic" (a parable) using "father gods" and "son gods" (e.g. Saturn-Jupiter) terminology (in some places) to relate the reality of the _one_ true God becoming man to pagans who had pervasive concepts of "father gods" and "son...
In the created universe, there is no way to measure or speak of time without referring to events. E.g. one second is a tick of a clock and we have a general concept of how long one second is relative to other events. What do you believe about the existence of time before God created any being or...
I think Jews were persecuted and they resisted (admirably) the Romans forcing statues of their gods in their temples and synagogues.
I think many religions in Roman Republic/Empire were persecuted, perhaps mainly because the Roman leaders wanted the blessings of their gods for power etc. and...