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  1. osgart

    What Part of Your Religion or Worldview Brings You the Most Comfort or Reassurance?

    No comfort. The evil and the good both prosper, and suffer in the Earth. Nature has no grande plan. The only comfort I have is in virtues, and that the ideals of virtues is a worthy aspiration. There's no middle ground between virtue and vice. Existence itself proves that there is no justice...
  2. osgart

    Why do christianity get so much hate?

    I've never had a Bible conscience. Never once! What exactly is the moral conscience of the Bible? Are you trying to say that this Bible conscience is in everyone, and bears witness that the Bible is true?
  3. osgart

    Why do christianity get so much hate?

    Christians are commanded to spread their message which is that non believers will go to forever hell for not believing. It's a false truth imposed on everyone and it has spread far and wide. Do you enjoy that you are being told that you will be going to hell for not being a Christian? Pick up...
  4. osgart

    My dear theists and atheists. Why ?

    I don't debate about God. But I do want to see the Gods of influence and ultimatums on my life disappear. And if I could help with that, great! Honestly I don't know why people have not imagined a better God than the Abrahamic psychobabble in those holy books. If I were to debate God, I'd...
  5. osgart

    Why we have a soul

    Intelligence could be a latent potential that only becomes apparent when conditions are right. Intelligence could be working autonomously without mind. Intelligence could become apparent at the fine tuning of the universe and is perhaps responsible for that. I don't think those abstractions...
  6. osgart

    Why we have a soul

    There seems to be a ton of confidence the other way as well; that life comes from physical processes and all you need is a central nervous system. There's confidence that life arises from none intelligent processes. But to actually explain the phenomenon of character traits in living organisms...
  7. osgart

    Why we have a soul

    Yeah I definitely don't see it that way. I can't see that character traits can be described by physical processes. Me being honest does not translate into chemistry without assuming that conclusion.
  8. osgart

    Why Are You Here?

    To change the course of human history. To win it all. I want the trophy. To defeat the religious mind and bring inferior minds to tears. Biden/Trump threads Evolution v. creationism threads To destroy All arguments that lack evidence. No, better then all that, I thought this place was my...
  9. osgart

    Why we have a soul

    Through awareness and experience by way of understanding I've come to the realization that I am a soul. A soul to me is an individual identity of a genuine self of individual heart, mind, and will. So I'm pretty much agreeing with you about the existence of soul. The contents of a soul are...
  10. osgart

    Do you love God?

    I love my perception of God. The God of virtues is perfect. However nothing in nature and existence indicates the existence of God. It's all in my imagination. If you read the Bible objectively there's nothing virtuous going on there. Just ultimatums, and destruction from a God that is...
  11. osgart

    Who here believes in "Scientism"?

    Intellect serves many purposes for those that have it. The body, mind, and heart of humans works together with great efficiency and conveniently. Intellect exists for reasons and those reason are to survive, learn, explore, remember, use things in the environment, reason about things, make use...
  12. osgart

    Who here believes in "Scientism"?

    I'm quite sure there are a lot of things that can never be understood as human beings. There's either too much to learn, or deeper realities that are beyond the scope of humans. I could never rule out deeper realities. In my conviction I can infer that deeper reality exists but I could never...
  13. osgart

    Who here believes in "Scientism"?

    In most cases, yes. Inner qualities and experiences are not detectable by use of empiricism. One might resort to reason and meditation to discover their inner selves. External behavior and modifying behaviour through empiricism is not the only way to discover the inner nature of being. A lot...
  14. osgart

    Who here believes in "Scientism"?

    Scientism is the conviction that science can answer all important questions about existence. Those kinds of people exist. They don't recognize the limits of empiricism. Empiricism can tell you many powerful things and continues to do so. But observance, and mathematics can't reveal intrinsic...
  15. osgart

    Is Self Love Good?

    Self love can mean many good or bad things. Since I define love as in accordance with virtues in heart and mind then in this case self love is a good thing. Otherwise there are plenty of lesser loves that are simply no good. One leads to narcissism and arrogant ego. Others lead down immoral...
  16. osgart

    Did You Choose Your Truth?

    Absolutely not. I don't get to choose my own truth. I am able to choose my own philosophy, but not truth. The vast unknown leaves a lot of room for beliefs, but I can't choose beliefs either. Truth isn't truth if you get to choose it. For me what constitutes truth is facts of existence and...
  17. osgart

    some thoughts on creationism

    It is that intelligence is a process and phenomenon in nature excluding the supernatural and excluding careful design. The fundamental reality is of intellect and produces intelligence in nature. Intelligence is goal oriented directedness. I believe cosmic purposes exist, yet nothing of a God...
  18. osgart

    I believe I have answered, scientifically, why be kind

    Instead of just being kind I try to give what in my judgment is the deserved response. Sure I would love to be kind but some people see that as an opportunity to take advantage, and others would try to exploit kindness. Kindness with kind people often turns out well. It's just that you have...
  19. osgart

    Religious People Only: Holding Back?

    Why does anything at all exist? Why in a vast void does existence provide life? Why does life and intelligence thrive? Why is there any intellect or functioning at all? Why is there a fine tuned universe? How did life climb mount improbable? Why do we have the capacity for good and evil, love...
  20. osgart

    Religious People Only: Holding Back?

    It can be very difficult because Christians, and the none religious take the point of view that their convictions are obviously true and anything else is totally irrational and absurd. Likewise I look at the both of them and find absurdity as well. So instead of going round and round with...
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