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  1. osgart

    Where do rights come from?

    Treat others how you want to be treated. Human rights are a necessary invention. Human rights are inevitable if people want to live with other people. The alternatives are having someone rule over you deciding what's best for you, or worse. Is there a better way? I definitely don't think...
  2. osgart

    How many times?

    In my family I had to shake off Catholicism, and independent Baptist religions. I believed in each of them for probably a few hours intermittently. Mostly it was ridiculous to me. I hoped for awhile that there was something true about these religions. But it truly did nothing for me, and...
  3. osgart

    Why Rich and Materialism Cannot Win

    Win at the expense of who or what? What does it mean to win? There's the worker and his overseers. The overseers get wealthier, and the workers get workier. People are not widgets; they are not economic units. They are not parts in a machine. Neverending growth will destroy us all. So...
  4. osgart

    Agnostic Atheists

    I've ruled out the Omni and ideal Gods. I've ruled out beings that have true power and authority over me. So I'm atheist. As for the totality of the nature of existence I consider it a profound mystery, and I have a hobby of seeking answers, so I consider myself agnostic on the matter. However...
  5. osgart

    Ietsism

    Wow, a term that fits what I believe in! This reality/force has knowable qualities but nowhere near as knowable as all religions claim, and certainly not baseless in that it can't be known at all. As a conscious being I can recognize my natural self, will, mind, heart as soul. I can...
  6. osgart

    Would anarchism last?

    It's like having a government without calling it a government. Law and order, cooperative rules, and complete cooperative agreement without administrators, and no hierarchy of rule. It would be toppled immediately the moment someone gains any of their own power, and disagreement emerges...
  7. osgart

    Would anyone here really want to live under a theocracy?

    Make no mistake about theocracy in that it's a human conception of a supposedly ideal God, and that will only lead to totalitarianism, denial of free thought, free expression, and free speech. That reminds me of a time I asked questions to someone at a Baptist Church about the validity of...
  8. osgart

    why do people want to spread their religion?

    People do not want to be totally alone in how they see the world. In addition people love to find out if others view the world the way that they do. It's also an attempt to share their input and find out new information relevant to what they adhere to. If people did not share their religion...
  9. osgart

    What is the threshold for labeling a religious belief as a “delusion”?

    Delusion impacts function, understanding basic reality, social, and physical existence. When beliefs and convictions do not impact those areas they are not delusions. There are beliefs and convictions that do no damage or harm to anyone and shouldn't be considered delusion. Imo delusion is...
  10. osgart

    Right and wrong --- or Good and Evil?

    I just read about his death. I am convinced to think it was an accident.
  11. osgart

    Right and wrong --- or Good and Evil?

    Grieving the human condition perhaps. Or did he in fact do something he should not have?
  12. osgart

    Right and wrong --- or Good and Evil?

    That's an interesting distinction you make. How far do people go with the survival instinct? Surviving at all costs ain't worth it. This isn't paradise. Who wants to be king of a dung hill? Nature and people can push a person far beyond places they want to go, physically and spiritually...
  13. osgart

    A child is falling into a well: what do you do?

    If I had to guess, I'd say that there are falls of heart where people have divergent passions and desires; one falls for love and the virtues, while the other falls for their own arrogant vanity. I'm sure there are those who only fall for logic, and intellectual reason as well, and may have...
  14. osgart

    What tools or mediums does God use to create the universe?

    Great! However I have no way of knowing this. I'll just keep poking nature and look for an ouch somewhere. Jk!
  15. osgart

    How To Make Yourself Look Like A Fool

    Anybody can be a fool if they grow up with all the wrong input and information, and cannot find the resources to unfool one's self. Enter an entirely new situation and experience and everyone starts out with the great potential of being a fool. Opposite of fool is wisdom. Wisdom is much...
  16. osgart

    What tools or mediums does God use to create the universe?

    So in a way, if God exists he is bound by the laws of nature. Perhaps with limited but powerful control over how nature manifests itself. God being nature itself?
  17. osgart

    Right and wrong --- or Good and Evil?

    Wicked, malevolent, and malicious explains a choice that occurs quite frequently in human nature. The other choice in human nature is to be innocent, benevolent, and fair minded. Most people find things to have either extremes that are morally acceptable or morally rejectable, or they use...
  18. osgart

    (Religion) Which is more important: to be factually correct or to be content?

    My religion is about dealing in truth and likelihoods about the nature of reality. It's philosophy mixed with faith. I make inferences from facts so those facts are vital to my religion. Life is a grande mystery is my conclusion. Cosmic purposes is my determination about existence. At times...
  19. osgart

    Atheists and their jargon of insults

    Why should anyone care that your attack on atheists matters? Everything your saying should apply to yourself as well, no? You are not going to change the atheist mindset right? People do change their minds. I've heard of RF posters expressing so. Debate is for the benefit of open minded...
  20. osgart

    Atheists and their jargon of insults

    Ok. I honestly do not believe, nor consider Gods to be real. Non existence is how I treat those concepts. I have theist friends, so, no, I don't hate on theists. Ok that gives equal grounds for atheists and theists having to defend both positions. That's a better form of debate. I attack...
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