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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    POST ONE OF TWO Hi @Brian2 and other readers Brian2 said : "I will ask you. Who was it that the elders of Israel saw at Exodus 24? It says in Exodus that it was God and at other places in the Bible it says that nobody has seen the invisible God and nobody can see Him. " (post #1402) I have...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Dogknox20 and other readers Dogknox20 said : "It think it is very sad. The Watch Tower condones the Sacrifice of Children because the scriptures say "Abstain from Fat & Blood"! Child Sacrifice in God' name; am very sure Satan was very happy!" Are you aware of the thousands and thousands...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Dogknox20 and other readers ; 1) OFFERING FAKE "BIBLE QUOTES" AND PARAPHRASES AND COMMENTARY IN THE PLACE OF ACTUAL BIBLICAL TEXT In post #1397, Clear pointed out that the texts offered as “biblical quotes” by Dogknox20 to support his theology in post #1353 are not authentic...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Dogknox20, @Soapy, and readers. I am back from traveling and immediately noticed some significant problems with the data in some of the posts. OFFERING FAKE "BIBLE QUOTES" AND PARAPHRASES AND COMMENTARY IN THE PLACE OF ACTUAL BIBLICAL TEXT I've noticed the tendency for posters to offer...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi 2ndPillar and Dogknox. I only have a minute or two before I am leaving this hotel (I am traveling) I noticed the conversation between you regarding a theoretical “canon” of scripture. I just wanted to make a single point. You are speaking of historical use of texts which were seen as...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Brian2 I apologize for not commenting on your question and response earlier. I am traveling and wanted to wait until I could use my computers keyboard rather than try to comment on a phones limited keyboard. 1) REGARDING "THE WAR IN HEAVEN" WHEN SATAN WAS "CAST DOWN LIKE LIGHTNING"...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Dogknox20 (and @nPeace since you started a thread on Matt 16:18) 1) THE APOSTLE PETER WAS NEVER A STANDING BISHOP OF THE ROMAN CONGREGATION, EVER Dogknox20 said : “Name another Key Holder! If NOT then all you have is your OPINION once again!” Clear replied : “All of the apostles had...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    POST TWO OF TWO 3) REGARDING THE HISTORICAL FACT THAT THE APOSTLE PETER WAS NEVER A STANDING BISHOP IN ROME FOR 25 YEARS Dogknox20 said : “The Church Fathers tell you; Peter is the first pope! “ We agree that in the later centuries (your two quotes come from the 4th century), the hierarchy...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    POST ONE OF TWO Hi @Dogknox20 1) REGARDING ATTEMPTS TO CREATE ANIMOSITY AND PREJUDICE AGAINST ANOTHER RELIGION BY OFFERING FALSE INFORMATION Dogknox20 said : “I reply: What does the Watch Tower call the Catholic Church?! I am fairly certain your are taught the Catholic Church is the Whore of...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Brian2 REGARDING THE ROLE OF MORAL AWARENESS AND MORAL CULPABILITY IN NEWBORNS AND MORALLY INCOMPETENT INDIVIDUALS (INCLUDING MENTAL RETARDATION OR MENTAL DISEASE) Soapy said : “In the main, children do not commit ‘DEPRAVED’ or ‘WICKED’ acts. They more often do SIN out of ignorance, for...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    POST TWO OF TWO 3) REGARDING THE HISTORICAL FACT THAT PETER WAS NEVER A STANDING BISHOP OF THE ROMAN CONGREGATION FOR 25 YEARS Dogknox20 said : Clear Okay I will bite: Where does the bible say "Peter was NOT in Rome"?!” You are biting on thin air. I never hinted in a belief that Peter did not...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    POST ONE OF TWO Ηι @Dogknox20 1) REGARDING ATTEMPTS TO CREATE ANIMOSITY AND PREJUDICE AGAINST ANOTHER RELIGION BY OFFERING FALSE INFORMATION Dogknox20 : The FACTS remain... (post #1289) The FACT remains that you tried to create prejudice against the Jehovahs Witnesses by consciously...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Dogknox20 1) MANY CHURCHES HAVE BISHOPS Dogknox20 said : "Clear Opinion.... Is all you have.. If you had FACTS you would have posted it! Again I ask... “What other claims another bishop other then Peter?!” (post #1287) My response to this question was that if you simply googled or...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Soapy 1) RELIGIOUS EDUCATION IS NOT A BAD THING, BUT IT IS A GOOD THING Soapy said : “I’m taking it you do not know your scriptures and so you do not know that Jesus says, in the scriptures, in answer to the disciples concern of a child with physical problems: ‘His disciples asked him...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    1) OFFERING BOGUS “SCRIPTURES” TO SUPPORT RELIGIOUS THEORIES IS NOT HELPFUL Soapy tried to offer as a "scripture" : “For I was born a sinner— yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.” (Psalm 51:5) Clear pointed out that this verse in psalms does NOT say “For I was born a sinner…” and no...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Soapy and other readers; 1) REGARDING SOAPYS THEORY THAT A NEWBORN IS GUILTY OF SIN AGAINST GOD Soapy claimed : "All sons of Adam carry inherited sin through their Father…." (post #1266) Clear responded : I do not understand how you can claim a newborn infant carries "inherited sin"...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Soapy ; REGARDING THE THEORY THAT A NEWBORN IS GUILTY OF SIN AGAINST GOD Soapy claimed : "All sons of Adam carry inherited sin through their Father…." (post #1266) Clear said : " Hi soapy. This is an unusual claim. I do not understand how you can claim a newborn infant carries "inherited...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @Soapy Soapy claimed : "All sons of Adam carry inherited sin through their Father…." (post #1266) Hi soapy. This is an unusual claim. I do not understand how you can claim a newborn infant carries "inherited sin" through their Father. I believe the early Christian doctrine was correct...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Readers, I thought that some historically minded readers might find it hard to look up the examples regarding the purpose of God in sending spirits to earth alluded to in post #1260, so I thought I would include them below. My first example came from, the Hellenistic synagogal prayer that...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Hi @YoursTrue I very much agree with you that the purpose of Gods great, cosmic plan is to teach individuals principles that will prepare them to be able to live together in a social heaven in joy and unity forever. This principle is confirmed in much of the early literature such as the...
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