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  1. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    OK so the whole process is orderly in a chaotic way and God can step in at any time or place a do whatever He wants (eg) make land animals from sea creatures, and nobody would be able to say that it was or was not God who did it, except that God has told us what He did and it seems to agree with...
  2. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    But your argument is from your position of empiricism, which seems to be an argument from incredulity. Then from there you reason that a God would change nothing because the only God your incredulity argument allows is a god that changes nothing in your list of possible things that a god could...
  3. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    I did not say there was evidence of need. It is you who is making the claim, that being that there is no need for divine manipulation. So burden of proof goes to you. Since you have left out the "without a designer" but, your answer means nothing. Nobody is questioning whether evolution...
  4. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    I'm not sure if I follow what you said, and how the timing can be random, but the process of mutation is not random. However it does show a problem religious people have in wanting to follow what science says and science altering it's view point over time. Anyway, if even mutations are not...
  5. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    What the article tells us is what is relevant. Articles like this are notorious for giving the wrong impression about what the real science is. The article says "Scientists have caught a once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event in progress, as two lifeforms have merged into one organism that...
  6. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    Brian2 said: My understanding is that this process of absorption and being united into one living thing is part of the evolution process and that this example probably took 100 million years and has just now been noticed to have happened by scientists. So what is your understanding of the...
  7. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    I have always heard that mutations are random.
  8. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    Which makes it predictable and even planned and designed to work that way.
  9. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    If God brought different environments at different times, to produce a type of life, then a third party was involved and science would not know,,,,,,,,,,,,, and more importantly it is not science that says that no third party was involved,,,,,,,,,, it is people who make statements of faith that...
  10. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    You are mistaken if you think that science has shown that there is no need for a designer or no evidence for a designer. These come from faith and not from science or lack of evidence. I was not talking about whether evolution happened or not. If somebody says "I don't see how evolution could...
  11. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    The mutations would be random but natural selection is not and is based on survivability in a particular environment. It seems that this would make the whole process of evolution, something that could be pre planned to lead to certain end points in known environments.
  12. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    My understanding is that this process of absorption and being united into one living thing is part of the evolution process and that this example probably took 100 million years and has just now been noticed to have happened by scientists.
  13. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    The article says that it began to evolve about 100 million years ago. That is hardly being observed. But yes, that sort of symbiotic relationship may be seen to have developed many more times in nature.
  14. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    Is it just presumed that what happened has resulted in a new species with new, or is this known?
  15. Brian2

    New species formed by merging two species.

    That seems to be what scientists guess may have happened.
  16. Brian2

    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    I just go to Paul's letters and the knowledge that he was around, and maybe even in Jerusalem when Jesus lived and became a Christian not that long after Jesus was killed. Why would anyone become a Christian when they knew that the existence of Jesus and His death on the cross etc were fictions...
  17. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    You are mistaken if you think that science has discovered that evolution happened or could have happened without a designer and assistance along the way. So it is a fallacious argument from incredulity to claim that nature did it all and not magic because the person claiming that does not...
  18. Brian2

    Not even Christians believe the *edit* of creation

    The 1985 Jewish Publication Society translation of Genesis 1:1-3 1 Bere**** When God began to create heaven and earth— the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from God sweeping over the water— God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light...
  19. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    Natural selection is the process by which the best random mutations survive in a population and help an organism to survive.
  20. Brian2

    How can you justify the sheer complexity that evolution would have to evolve?

    I see, of course, but you seem to think that science has shown that chemistry could have accomplished evolution without a third party intervention. But that is not the case imo.
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