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  1. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Ideas, emotions, faith, love etc, the stuff of life. Science can study the brain and chemical reactions in the body to these things and some can presume that means that the religious myth is not true, but it does not show that at all, it just shows that the spirit is connected to the physical...
  2. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    That is a problem with science. It has eyes only for the physical/material. The spirit or magical essence is right there, here. Magically this pile of chemicals is alive and conscious but science can only study the physical side of life and sceptics presume that this life, this consciousness is...
  3. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Yes.
  4. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Do you believe that dead chemicals magically become alive and conscious? On the microscopic level it is no doubt hard to know where the line is between machine and life. Maybe life in the form of spirit is what animates larger organisms, those made up of single celled organisms/machines. This is...
  5. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Demonstrably physical organisms are made from molecules. Science cannot show that life, which is not made from molecules, comes from molecules, or whether it is additional to those molecules. Science cannot find any additional things apart from the molecules and physical processes, but science...
  6. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    And yet there is more to life than a pile of chemicals, as you know. You don't need to be very informed to look around you and see that all physical bodies are composed of chemicals. I try to be honest about what I see, and I see atheists claiming that Gods do not exist and then I see...
  7. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    That sentence. Oh gosh, pain and suffering and death exist and everyone goes through these things, so God does not exist. No that very poor logic. So all you need is created matter which operates with laws that you can call natural and you can explain everything else, and then say that the...
  8. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Well ignoring what science cannot study would be ignoring that life is more than just a pile of chemicals. In a situation like that all science can do, and does, is to say that those things are byproducts of the chemistry, and use phrases like "Life is more than the sum of it's parts". So...
  9. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    So allyou have is what TagliatelliMonster calls "mere ignorant negative "evidence" against some different idea",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, from the post you are quoting #1,091 And with that you want people to believe that order is a natural state, as opposed to chaos.....................that a...
  10. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Dr James Tour says that such demonstrations are not as close as are being said. However why would being able to do that demonstrate chemistry alone as being responsible for life?
  11. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    It's not a matter of hide and seek when God has shown Himself in history for those who can see and believe it. It is a matter of whether physical sciences should be able to detect something that is not physical, by scientific means. It sounds reasonable that science would not be able to do that...
  12. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    James Tour is just saying that the chemists in the field are over exaggerating where science is when it comes to the origin of life. He says that he does speak to chemists in the field in private and finds out what they really think. He is a high achieving organic chemist and knows what it takes...
  13. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    That would be good, if science was able to say that God created it all. Yes I agree.
  14. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Yes I know the logic and agree but you need to keep up with the discussion that I was in with TagliatelliMonster (Tagliatelli being a traditional type of pasta from the Italian regions of Emilia-Romagna and Marche.) and not just answer words on a screen without knowing the context. Again your...
  15. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    I can show you but you have already chosen not to believe any evidence I have for God. Yes I think I have always said that. But they are not irrelevant in explaining why things are. The choice was to say that empiricism and science are the only ways to find out the true. The rejection of the...
  16. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Science has not shown that the world works automatically without intelligent supervision. The question about a creator is never irrelevant. All irrelevance would show is that the person is using an argument from ignorance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and it is not because there is a lack of evidence, it is...
  17. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    It is true that science cannot study spirits. Yet people who should know better, think that science should be able to do this, and if it cannot, it is not the fault of science, but is because spirits do not exist. That is called scientism imo, and it is not an insult, just a fact. It is no...
  18. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    Are you saying that the only possibility is that life got to it's present state on it's own from pre existing chemicals? I'm not sure what Behe first presented but when it comes to the flagellum motor the IDers seem to say that it has not failed and that the science points to it having...
  19. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    It sounds as if you are saying that science knows how life began. Maybe you should let the abiogenesis gang know that they can stop looking.
  20. Brian2

    How do you detect "design"?

    It's not about a goal of nature or a goal of the organisms, it is about the goal of the designer. The universe and life were made in such a way that it is possible to have the tree shape instead of the ladder shape, and organisms could fill every niche.
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