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  1. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    Satan is an angel who has fallen. I would say that Satan went as close to the edge as possible, and eventually his true colours were plain to everyone. The demons obeyed Jesus because Jesus had authority over them, as he has over satan, but I would say they obey what they obey, out of fear.
  2. Brian2

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    Hebrews 10:9 has nothing to do with setting aside the first Son in order to establish a second Son. We do learn from scripture however that the one God chooses to be His firstborn is not necessarily the first one born. Jesus, a man who was the unique Son of God was not the first man (son of...
  3. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    I suppose it is hard to tell when the war broke out in heaven and when Satan and his angels were kicked out (Rev 12) However the serpent is punished for what he did in the garden and so would have done something against the will of God. But God is very patient and it can be seen in the Bible...
  4. Brian2

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    I think that in Hebrew it is the same word which can mean both. I think this applies to the Greek also. So in that case there is no blame on the translators. If it was not like this then the JWs could not say that "firstborn" has only one meaning and you and I say that there is more than one...
  5. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    We are told by Jesus whom the serpent is. Sure we are to overcome temptation but the one who brought the flood of temptations onto humanity is satan, the serpent. Adam and Eve were not ready to know about good and evil and be tempted by it on every side and neither are we.
  6. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    From this site: What Is Sin? Definition and Bible Understanding). In the Bible, sin is described as a transgression of the law of God (1 John 3:4) and rebellion against God (Deuteronomy 9:7; Joshua 1:18).
  7. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    You would need to ask God that question? They probably have their purpose.
  8. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    Should we be grateful to the serpent? Is ingratitude to the serpent what has led to the evil we have in the world?
  9. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    Did God sin by creating humans? Would that not require a definition of sin that is contrary to any Biblical definition?
  10. Brian2

    What was the first sin ever committed ?

    Nevertheless the serpent must have done something wrong for God to have punished it.
  11. Brian2

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    From: John 10:30 Commentaries: "I and the Father are one." 30. I and my Father are one] ‘One’ is neuter in the Greek; not one. Person, but one Substance. There is no ‘My’ in the Greek; I and the Father are one. Christ has just implied that His hand and the Father’s hand are one, which implies...
  12. Brian2

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    No I don't. Are you saying that the Bible is wrong and that you know what it should have said?
  13. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Jesus tells us that God has been working since creation. John 5:16Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him. 17But Jesus answered them, “To this very day My Father is at His work, and I too am working.” When Genesis tells us God rested, all it...
  14. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    God is capable, and YECers who do not agree with an old age for the universe and the earth etc say that is what happened. Just as the flood can be interpreted as a large local flood so the creation can be interpreted as long slabs of time in which God did various things in the creation work.
  15. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    I suppose that is being symbolic about light and moral guidance, but if not then it is saying that sun and moon were needed but then they will not be needed because God and the Lamb will be bright enough. That would mimic real 24 hour days whether the days were 24 hours or longer or shorter.
  16. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    OK so you avoid answering by changing the topic to slavery. I'm just saying that the conclusions that science can reach about the facts actually do support the Genesis story, but I suppose there is nothing like that old atheist joke to deflect away from that.
  17. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    So looking at science and seeing that many scientists agree with the first part of Genesis 1 is being dishonest?
  18. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    I don't think that any other literal day in the Bible is described as "evening and morning". So the days of creation are different in that regard. Sure the Jews began to start their days in the evening and have them go to the evening of the next day, but that shows nothing but what the Jews did...
  19. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    I don't know which part of Revelation you are talking about unless you mean the last couple of chapters where God and the lamb supply the light. But really you have said that you don't believe the Genesis story so you brain must be just making stuff up, how there could be literal days with...
  20. Brian2

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Why do you think that things that YEC say about the creation story have to be correct? If you think that the sun was not created till day 4 then there cannot have been literal days on the previous days. We have literal 24 hour days now and when God gave us the 7th day Sabbath but that does not...
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