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    Leaving the EU has been a disaster for the UK

    Since I’m not British, I have no dog in this fight, but my thought is: “just what you need, another layer of government”. If you are all so hot to unite as a “Europe”, then why the hell don’t you do it right instead of taking half measures…unite into one single federal nation-state in which none...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    You are asking the wrong question. It is not this which demands proof, it is the suggestion that the person was ‘healed’ by an unseen God. If we know someone is sick, and the person then recovers and becomes well, upon which you claim that you prayed and that God healed the person because of...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Say, @ratiocinator, how to you create the link to a particular post like that?
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    I think that a psychological study of Saul of Tarsus might prove fascinating. Though his writings seem to contain references to his Pharisaical roots, he seems to have been so thoroughly Hellenized in his culture that he sought to divorce what was essentially a movement within Judaism from every...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    The fallacy of the unstated logical argument, upon which a belief in God must rest, lies in the fact that life in this world (especially life among other people) demonstrates to us that we should only believe in things which: (a) we have experienced directly and personally, (b) are of a type not...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    The semantics can get hairy in ontological discussions. Fictitious things do not exist, but the fictions about them exist… Ontology can drive ya nuts!
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    They are real, but they are not real things; they are real abstractions…types of relational processes which have labels like “quantum mechanics” and “home run”.
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    We can know that by extrapolation. When a person dies, there is no mind because the brain no longer functions, and for no other reason. From this, I can determine well enough to my own satisfaction that where there is no functioning brain, there is no mind. I find it a bit strange that your...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Being convinced of what makes sense to one in no way preempts or negates logical fallacy. It made sense to David Koresh of the Waco cult that he was a god, was he not subject to logical fallacy? It seems to make sense to Tom Cruise and John Travolta that they will inherit their own planets (or...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Logical fallacy makes for a poor beginning to any endeavor. However, a deep study of the meaning of scripture, while being careful about your attribution of belief, might indeed, provide a starting point for understanding the human condition.
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    This is particularly true of claims annd propositions about the supernatural and extranatural. If you were to tell me that a new species of finch has been discovered in Africa, then that is a claim only involving the natural, and I may accept it without demanding evidence. If you were to tell...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    No, a study of the biblical and other mythoi is a gateway to deeper understanding of the human condition. A formulation of the concept that there is an existent god without having any objective evidence that such is true is no more than a delve into fallacious thinking, and a gateway to...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Yes! This is the wonder of mythos. It is when we read myth like stupid children that we go all sideways.
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    You are barking up the wrong tree. These words “space”, “time”, “special relativity” and “quantum mechanics” refer not to things which can be relational objects, they refer to process abstractions which are used in explanation of phenomena. The same with the term “home run”. I cannot perceive a...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Only relational objects require evidence. Objects are grammatically represented by nouns. “Good”, being an adjective as I used the word, then requires no evidence.
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Please, what is the number of the post, there are now four hundred…
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Please, render the argument…
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    No not false…unmanifest, unproven, or undemonstrated, until it manifests, is proven or is demonstrated. Again, and for the twentieth time, I don’t claim that “there is no God”, I claim that I don’t believe in any god for the utter lack of evidence. I only grace those objects with my belief for...
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    We know it well enough, for where there are no brains, there are no minds.
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    Too Many Extremes in Disbelief

    Yes, then why does He hide himself away, when he might achieve his wish with a little revelation from time to time (as the generations change)? A purposeful lie, for sure.
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