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  1. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    We can examine the evidence to see if it falls apart when attacked,,,,,,,,,,, and there are plenty of attacks on the existence of God and on the Bible and Jesus. But really I suppose we know it is real evidence and not just a product of our own imagination the same way someone might know that...
  2. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    You better read the book to find out why he became a Christian. But there was no indoctrination of his infancy except indoctrination from a family with generations of atheists.
  3. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    If science does not show that the eye or bacterial flagellum have evolved then it is educated guesswork to say that they did evolve. That is not to say that the educated guesswork is not true, it just shows the nature of the science. We cannot verify what science comes up with and we cannot...
  4. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    Huh?
  5. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    Sorry I don't think anyone has explained how educated guesses are any more than educated guesses. So you are asserting something that you don't know is true or not and then showing you are guilty of falsehood. OK
  6. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    That video seems to be a presumption that if part of the flagellum motor can be used for something, that means that the whole idea of Irreducible Complexity has been debunked. This thinking seems to have come from the notion that evolution is true so the flagellum must have evolved from other...
  7. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    You deny the evidence that there is for spirits and God. Isn't that confirmation bias. No, evidence does not prove things but causes belief in things. You should really look at the question I was answering. Do you gain knowledge about something usually before you believe it exists? It is...
  8. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    Yes I suppose it is possible to learn about something or someone before we believe it or they exist but it is not really knowledge about that thing of being until we actually believe it or they exist. Do you gain your knowledge about something before you believe it exists? How does that work...
  9. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    I'm just pointing out that you reject the unverifiable when it comes to the existence of God etc but accept it when it comes to science guesswork that cannot be verified. And don't pretend that I am saying that all of science is guesswork, even though that is something I have come to expect from...
  10. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    Yes if you start off with a creation then you can presume that no God is needed. If you start off presuming that it is OK to ignore the possibility of a God and evidence for Him then you can also presume that life is no more than chemically based. Yes origins is what God said He did, and that...
  11. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    I would say there is more than you think. It is not indicating that God is a Trinity but is suggesting that possibility. So Baha'i agreeing with part of Jewish interpretation means nothing. The Messiah being shown in Torah to be the Son of God and in other passages to be Divine certainly...
  12. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    OK thanks
  13. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    Yes we have very different views of the inspiration of scripture etc. But we both agree with many interpretations that Jews have and disagree with others. There are passages which show the Messiah to be the Son of God and Divine however, even if Baha'is might see those passages as referring to...
  14. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    A human is more than just spirit. The physical is part of humanity and Jesus was a man. True? This is the same with Moses etc. So was Jesus, the totality of Jesus, a Manifestation of God or what? Was it only the soul of Jesus which was a Manifestation of God? And if so, does that mean that the...
  15. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    So you believe the Torah is not the Word of God.
  16. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    If the Divine Son of God becomes a man, He remains the Divine Son of God while being a man. iow He does not become someone else. But for Jesus He was like His fellow humans and put away His divine status and powers while on earth. Any superhuman things He did were from God, just as Moses and...
  17. Brian2

    Interesting video about evolution and origins.

    So you don't mind if Newton and others believed in God and Jesus, it's his science that is important. But believing in God and Jesus these days, and that God has put understandable order into His creation means that an organisation is biased. We all know the game already. "Show me objective...
  18. Brian2

    Jesus' Failed Second Coming Prophecy and What this Means for Christianity

    From this site: Son of man (Christianity) - Wikipedia Sixty-nine times in the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus calls himself (the) "Son of man", a Greek expression which in its Aramaic (and Hebrew) background could be an oblique way of indicating the speaker's own self (e.g., Matt 8:20), or else simply...
  19. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    I don't know what "impassable" means except "unable to be passed". However the question is whether Jesus is the perfect image of God, as the Bible says, or not. As a man on earth Jesus would have not used many Godly attributes that belonged to Him of course, so He could be just like other...
  20. Brian2

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    The quote I gave from the site you posted does suggest that the status of a Manifestation is that of a demigod. ..........by their nature, they are inherently superior to the average human. Jesus, as a man, was still the Son of God, but was the same as other humans and had to rely on His Father...
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