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Search results for query: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

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  1. M

    Toy Worlds and the Problem of Evil

    No worries, I'm also figuring out the user interface after nearly a decade away from the site! Good call on the Epicurus quote, it's a good one. And I certainly don't mind at all. I'll see you around the forum ^.^
  2. VoidCat

    Toy Worlds and the Problem of Evil

    ...ignoring you. In regards to this that reminds me of this wellknown quote: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then...
  3. sayak83

    Toy Worlds and the Problem of Evil

    But the characters you see in video games are visual illusions created in screens through pixel patterns. The programs in video games are not creating characters, but rather creating pixel patterns on screens that sustain this illusions. All kinds of logically impossible things can hence be...
  4. M

    Toy Worlds and the Problem of Evil

    It is possible to build a world in which there is no physical suffering, yet in which there is still free will (or the illusion thereof, depending on where you sit with that particular debate -- key takeaway, with the same amount of free agency we employ now, however much that is. I will...
  5. ecco

    "I believe in science, I don't believe in God"

    His Omniscient god knew what the total of the six commissions would be. His Omnipotent god whispered into his ear how much to tithe (the sum of the commissions). See, no free will interference.
  6. Koldo

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    1) Omnipotence is unlimited power. 2) Unlimited power allows one to achieve any objective straight away, without the need to go through steps. For if it didn't, a higher power would be imaginable and there can be no higher power than unlimited power. 3) If an omnipotent being has a plan, every...
  7. Evangelicalhumanist

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    I cannot fathom what it must be to think like you do on the subject of this "subjectivity." It is very clear, however, that the Holocaust can only be considered a subjective annoyance, as well as the deliberate starvation of nearly 4 million Ukrainians by Stalin. Slavery, it would seem, is not...
  8. Brickjectivity

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Two core and interesting comments from this thread so far are by Quagmire and Koldo: I'll take a stab at undoing Epicurous. A. willing but not able -- this definition of God is indeed one of a non-omnipotent God, however it doesn't mean God's will cannot be exemplary for people. B. Able and...
  9. Quagmire

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Yes, if all you're interested in are hypothetical solutions. That is: an equation where the solution itself has no set value. In this equation, or actually the three equations of the PoE, a set value is assigned to each solution: God is either : limited, malebolemt, or not-God. The point I'm...
  10. We Never Know

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Its not the policeman's job to protect her. "“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and...
  11. 1

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Sound very biased point to start. I think the correct explanation for evil to happen here is: 1. People wanted to know evil and rejected God. 2. Because of that, people were expelled to this first death, where we can learn what evil truly means (to be without God). 3. It is not a problem...
  12. Colt

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    You should be thankful that God tolerates the evil of Atheist who constantly strive undermine genuine faith. The tears are allowed to live along side the wheat. 54:0.2 The Gods neither create evil nor permit sin and rebellion. Potential evil is time-existent in a universe embracing...
  13. Colt

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    You should be thankful that God tolerates the evil of Atheist who constantly strive undermine genuine faith. The tears are allowed to live along side the wheat. 54:0.2 The Gods neither create evil nor permit sin and rebellion. Potential evil is time-existent in a universe embracing...
  14. Koldo

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Actually, as I see it, the best "argument" is to bite the bullet and claim that omnipotence is not really unlimited power. That understanding it as unlimited power is an error. This view is entirely compatible with every religion that involves God. If anything, it makes even more sense. Just...
  15. 74x12

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Why do you think God's job is the same as a police officer's job? For that matter how can Epicurus understand God? It's like an ant trying to understand a human. Really it's more of a disparity than that.
  16. InChrist

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    I have noticed that most people who find fault with God for not stopping evil, are often the same people who are offended by the biblical accounts where God does intervene to stop evil... Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts...
  17. F

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    If you were to be given omnipotence - would you do what you want to do or what your don't want to do? To rephrase - would you act according to your nature or against it? God is a perfectly lawful Being - which means that He will not act against universal and eternal Law. This is not because...
  18. MikeF

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    Does the threat (or is it a promise?) of eternal damnation for committing an evil act not affect or influence ones will? Is free will only truly expressed in anarchy, with no consequences or repercussions? If so, there is no free will in an Abrahamic religious construct, and therefore, free...
  19. lovesong

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    I think this is a great way to explain the argument. I also want to bring attention to the idea of free will as an excuse for allowing evil. Could God create a world with both free will and no evil? If yes, the problem stands, if no, then he's not all-powerful. Even ignoring that issue, and if...
  20. Evangelicalhumanist

    A Return to the Argument from Evil (by Epicurus)

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” ― Epicurus The most serious argument against this...
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