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  1. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    1. you are a sweetheart for making the font so much larger for me. Thank you for that. 2. I suppose you do have a point, although I do like this particular pope. Perhaps it is his humility that appeals to me but whatever the case, I find him much more approachable by the average person than...
  2. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Simply being understandable, from a etymology POV, in no way proves logic. I could say the following: Tomorrow I shall dive bomb my rabbit hole and come back as an ostrich. It is understandable, albeit crazy talk but understandable nonetheless. This does not mean it is logical, which clearly...
  3. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I would be one of those who would argue that the Tanakh is far from logical. The 6000 year old earth, that rabbits chew their cuds are two of what I consider mistakes but, IMO, there is much more that I found to be illogical in my study of the faith and the text. For example, I found...
  4. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I would strongly disagree with you. When I meditate on what you would call God and look for the lessons in my life and what they mean, I am often awed. The sense of awe is something I attach to the concept of what I consider to be God. It is, at least from my path's POV, what enlightenment...
  5. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Furthermore, you said and I quote: "There's a G-d. He tells people what to do. A lot of people mess up a lot. Some don't. The end." And the title of this thread is about the concept of the great mystery which some people call God. I asked you how you know there is this God and how you further...
  6. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I did and if you don't want to answer, simply don't.
  7. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    How is that different from your sacred text? Is it not a book that you meditate in the form of prayer and that you reflect upon through intense study? How does that make it any better or worse? Whether you want to admit it or not, both books are books of reflection and thought. Neither can...
  8. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    How so? Is your view of G-d (in honor of your view) any different than my view based on Buddhism? And if it is different, why is it different? Neither of us can prove the concept either way as its all based on belief. What makes your's any different or better than mine?
  9. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Yet the question remains of how you know that this God, as you call it, is a "He". There was female deities long before any faith had a male deity. Were they all wrong and how do you know they were? Are you basing this arbitrary concept on a book written by men because I can quote many sacred...
  10. J

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    IMO, it is a term that has been used to describe this mystery for millennia. I don't call it God either, save to communicate thoughts on that topic here on this forum. I am Buddhist and consider the Mystery to be a joining with Enlightenment. There is no gender nor figure such as defined by...
  11. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    Whose truth? Yours? Or that that I hold to be true? The article did say that the Pope and the RCC still held to the standards of the OT or Tanahk, and I never said otherwise. What I did say was that his views on forgiveness of the treatment of gays in the past was refreshing and forward...
  12. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    Excellent point Demon however, don't you think there will always be nut cases such as these men out there? I knew a woman once who swore that any sex other than the missionary position in the dark was a sin. And in particular, she was dead set against oral sex of any kind, quoting verse after...
  13. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    No, actually, it is not dishonest. Christians have interpreted and reinterpreted various verses within the Bible to suit whatever needs they might have at the time. Christ did speak of sexual immorality but what is sexual immorality? It is immoral for two committed people to be in a committed...
  14. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    I personally would not ask the RCC to have married myself and my late partner. She would have liked that as she was from Cuba and was very Catholic but she also knew that the RCC had this stand and was realistic enough to understand they would not acquiesce. But I do think that acceptance of...
  15. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    That is pretty unusual , you have to admit, particularly for the stand on gays by the RCC. Is your choir director within a committed relationship with his or her partner? Or are they remaining celibate owing to the standards of the RCC? It is this double standard that makes the entire issue...
  16. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    That is very true but don't you think that this pope is at least trying to come to a more modern view of gays? Even if the RCC and by extension, this pope, still sees being gay as a 'sin', again a word I simply loathe, is not approaching the community of gays and asking forgiveness for past...
  17. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    An excellent point there. You would never hear someone, nor hear the Church ask of someone who is heterosexual being asked to remain celibate simply because they are hetero. Its ludicrous and would create apoplexy within the Church within hours. Its the arbitrariness of this argument that...
  18. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    Respectfully, if you wish to create a thread about the perils or detriments of Catholicism, as you see it, please create one and let this thread be about the topic that was in the OP. Thank you in advance.
  19. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    Christ himself drank wine as it is written in the Bible so your assertion that alcohol is prohibited does not really hold water there. True, most Christians realize that gays are no different than you are. We are humans who were born gay, just as I suspect you were born heterosexual or did you...
  20. J

    The Pope on women and gays

    Jesus is not and was not the prophesied Messiah defined in the Tanahk. He didn't come from the correct familial lineage, among other signs Jews have been watching for for millennia. So what he may or may not have said can be seen as nothing more than a very good teacher, much like Gandhi or...
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