Yes, a human is a social animal, and faith is one of the main points where we find fellowship.... but also conflict.
As I have had a long spiritual path, with many partings from those I conflicted with, I obviously define myself.
Always! This is part of the path of the Mystic!
True!
I will always have a private relationship with the God of Abraham, and follow the 7 laws; but there is a social element, a community aspect of faith that I seek for a fresh new view.
Nothing new, nothing new at all. I should have known better.
So now, looking for a new faith group. Something with a bit less cruelty and a bit more kindness.
All options open, so many I've had curiosity about and some contact with: Gnosticism, Wicca, Native American (Shamanism) ... heck...
Noah took 70 years to build the Ark.
Obviously you've never heard of Tekkun Olam.
OK
I've had a long talk with my spouse, and their reaction boiled down to 'what did you expect?'.
What indeed. Noachideism doesn't work, doesn't even work with the folks who made it, obviously.
I think this...
Come now, we both know it won't be by a flood, but by fire. That was your job, to prevent that, and since that is defaulted the time is now up. Even the generation of Noah had 70 years. I know that many fundy Christians want their apocalypse but I thought the Jews knew better, wanted to repair...
As far as I know, the schools of Shem & Eber were extinct by the time of Sinai. However, I think that these laws are so basic that they can be deduced from the written Torah by anyone, no need for Talmud. When you look at the flood and Sodom, these are judgements right? There has to be some...
He might have been given all of them, but he only brought down the tablets. Unless you think that the all 613 and oral torah was all on them.
Yes & no. For the animals, it was given, but for man it's 'cut' or else no destruction of Sodom.
Link me a pro-nochide site that divorces the nochide...
Oh, then I guess every law not given at Sinai with the 10 commandments is separate from the Sinai Covenant as they're in separate passages altogether.
There's two parties in a covenant, otherwise it's not a covenant, it's just a statement.
God first tells Noah what is Man's part in this new...
My point was, the 613 are an inseparable part of the Mosaic covenant and can't be voided. Just like the 7 are with the Noahide covenant.
Oh, not so fast there. Adam didn't have any law concerning eating life blood, as this was a totally new thing given to Noah and an integral part of the whole...
"The Talmud teaches that G-d saw that the children of Noah were not fulfilling the Noahide Laws, so He nullified the Noahide Laws."
THAT sound familiar?
Think that THAT has not been thrown in my face before?
And... *don't* say that the laws are separate from the covenant, they can not be...