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  1. Shem Ben Noah

    Guess I'm here now

    Agnostics for sure, so long as they seek! I'll see your Krispy Kreme and raise with... Entenmanns!
  2. Shem Ben Noah

    Guess I'm here now

    Yes, a human is a social animal, and faith is one of the main points where we find fellowship.... but also conflict. As I have had a long spiritual path, with many partings from those I conflicted with, I obviously define myself. Always! This is part of the path of the Mystic!
  3. Shem Ben Noah

    Guess I'm here now

    True! I will always have a private relationship with the God of Abraham, and follow the 7 laws; but there is a social element, a community aspect of faith that I seek for a fresh new view.
  4. Shem Ben Noah

    Guess I'm here now

    Nothing new, nothing new at all. I should have known better. So now, looking for a new faith group. Something with a bit less cruelty and a bit more kindness. All options open, so many I've had curiosity about and some contact with: Gnosticism, Wicca, Native American (Shamanism) ... heck...
  5. Shem Ben Noah

    Ignore List. Hope the favor is returned. tumah, flankerl, jayhawker soule,

    Ignore List. Hope the favor is returned. tumah, flankerl, jayhawker soule,
  6. Shem Ben Noah

    Guess I'm here now

    Yup. Ex-Abrahamic.
  7. Shem Ben Noah

    Shiny & New

    Adding a new X to the list, Ex-Noachide. Yay! :p
  8. Shem Ben Noah

    Are you a Noachide?

    Changed my vote. Won't be able to post here anymore, not especially wanting to right now anyways.
  9. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    Noah took 70 years to build the Ark. Obviously you've never heard of Tekkun Olam. OK I've had a long talk with my spouse, and their reaction boiled down to 'what did you expect?'. What indeed. Noachideism doesn't work, doesn't even work with the folks who made it, obviously. I think this...
  10. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    Come now, we both know it won't be by a flood, but by fire. That was your job, to prevent that, and since that is defaulted the time is now up. Even the generation of Noah had 70 years. I know that many fundy Christians want their apocalypse but I thought the Jews knew better, wanted to repair...
  11. Shem Ben Noah

    Jews/Noahides: Are Noahides part of Judaism or a separate entity?

    How many of the 613 are not applicable today, without the temple?
  12. Shem Ben Noah

    Jews/Noahides: Are Noahides part of Judaism or a separate entity?

    As far as I know, the schools of Shem & Eber were extinct by the time of Sinai. However, I think that these laws are so basic that they can be deduced from the written Torah by anyone, no need for Talmud. When you look at the flood and Sodom, these are judgements right? There has to be some...
  13. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    He might have been given all of them, but he only brought down the tablets. Unless you think that the all 613 and oral torah was all on them. Yes & no. For the animals, it was given, but for man it's 'cut' or else no destruction of Sodom. Link me a pro-nochide site that divorces the nochide...
  14. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    Oh, then I guess every law not given at Sinai with the 10 commandments is separate from the Sinai Covenant as they're in separate passages altogether. There's two parties in a covenant, otherwise it's not a covenant, it's just a statement. God first tells Noah what is Man's part in this new...
  15. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    My point was, the 613 are an inseparable part of the Mosaic covenant and can't be voided. Just like the 7 are with the Noahide covenant. Oh, not so fast there. Adam didn't have any law concerning eating life blood, as this was a totally new thing given to Noah and an integral part of the whole...
  16. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    "The Talmud teaches that G-d saw that the children of Noah were not fulfilling the Noahide Laws, so He nullified the Noahide Laws." THAT sound familiar? Think that THAT has not been thrown in my face before? And... *don't* say that the laws are separate from the covenant, they can not be...
  17. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    What claim? That " I will establish My covenant with you..." first occurs in Gen 9 or that they claim it as theirs?
  18. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    The very FIRST covenant, my covenant, of Genesis 9
  19. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    Ummm.... I didn't *say* anything about Christian belief, mate. <----- see my religion label? That's the one I'm talking about.
  20. Shem Ben Noah

    Does God break his vows?

    If God creates an "everlasting covenant" and some people come along later and say, 'oh no... God has nullified it'... Who do you believe?
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