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  1. Gnostic Seeker

    Jesus is not god

    You just contradicted yourself.
  2. Gnostic Seeker

    The Trinity

    What scripture is that? I never said Jesus denied being good, I said he denied it on that occasion because he didn't want worship. You have still yet to demonstrate Jesus actually WANTED or ACCEPTED worship. Everytime Jesus was called God in that way by people he made it a point to correct their...
  3. Gnostic Seeker

    Are you spiritual, religious, or irreligious?

    That's my worship community currently. UU isn't necessarily religious, and doesn't require one to adhere to specific dogmas. As a group we affirm all religions contain truths.
  4. Gnostic Seeker

    A Communist says hi.

    Greetings!
  5. Gnostic Seeker

    What are you grateful for today?

    Today I am grateful for music.
  6. Gnostic Seeker

    Jesus is not god

    Again, this doesn't establish Jesus as any word other than the word God spoke to create him. It doesn't establish he is God's creative Word. John 1 isn't saying that either because it says no man has seen God at any time. John later says Jesus told the Jews they had not heard God's voice at any...
  7. Gnostic Seeker

    The Trinity

    Jesus was worshiped<<< Being worshipped and accepting that worship are two different things. We are told Jesus did not accept praises/glory from people (Jn 5:41). In this same chapter he explains he does and says only as the Father guides him, and that if he were to testify of himself, his...
  8. Gnostic Seeker

    Are you spiritual, religious, or irreligious?

    I'd say spiritual because I don't really follow one religion, but rather what I find meaningful in all of them. I pray in a non-structured way, simply saying what I feel. Sometimes I like to feel ritualistic, so I borrow from many traditions like Hindu mantra or the Islamic salat, and do my own...
  9. Gnostic Seeker

    The Trinity

    No, the entire concept is unbiblical. Jesus said his Father was greater than he was, that only God alone is good, and so forth. Jesus calls the Father his God repeatedly.
  10. Gnostic Seeker

    The Trinity

    It didn't start then, or with Constantine. It was a theological development that gradually evolved and gained ground. The Orthodox definition of it was affirmed by most of the church universal at Nicea yes, but I believe this was ultimately a mistake.
  11. Gnostic Seeker

    How is faith a virtuous and reasonable attribute?

    I think so, if faith entails ideals that better humanity, and part of that faith is affirming those ideals. Would you deny people of faith like Martin Luther King Jr have done great things for human betterment? That is a useful and life-changing kind of faith.
  12. Gnostic Seeker

    The Trinity

    The Trinity doesn't appear in scripture. There are no words in scripture: Trinity, God the Son, etc. There really is no getting around the Trinity being a theological development within Christianity.
  13. Gnostic Seeker

    Jesus is not god

    I tend to think of Jesus as a god-realized/awakened man, whose followers may not have entirely understood how to interpret that because this kind of mysticism was so foreign to the first century Roman world. As for Jesus being the Word: does the Bible indeed say Jesus is God's Word? To me John...
  14. Gnostic Seeker

    My Hiatus and going the Spiritual Route

    Peace upon you all and hope you've been well. I've been away from the forums a good month or so. In that time I've been on what you could call a quest for truth. I explored Islam more, thought about the things meaningful to me and where I stand with others. My partner and I have started...
  15. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    To be fair, I will concede this is the assertion of Christianity yes- that Jesus is the messiah of Israel, and hence passages in the Tanakh apply to him. However, can this understanding be derived from the Tanakh alone, or does it require Christian reading lenses? I would argue it cannot.
  16. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    I don't see how it could be monotheism when the claim is (according to the Council of Chalcedon) that the Son became both God and man in perfect union, but clearly this isn't true of the Holy Spirit or the Father.
  17. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    Why focus on a monotheistic entity's manifestations though, and why only these alleged three? God manifests as the merciful, the provider, etc. in the Hebrew language- but are these separate persons in a godhead?
  18. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    Yes I question the integrity of the Bible, which is again another issue. The point is, Christianity does not hold the monotheism of Israel. Columbus already pointed out there is nothing in the Tanakh about Jesus as concerns the salvation of Israel. Only God is called Israel's savior and redeemer.
  19. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    Yes the Bible does mention a lot more than this about Abraham. It mentions a war he had with kings, in which he supported to king of Sodom, but only for the sake of Lot.
  20. Gnostic Seeker

    Is Islam actually closest to the faith of Abraham proper of the three Abrahamic religions?

    The trinity is at best a solution the Church came up with to solve certain Christological issues, and at worse- a total innovation.
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