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  1. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    I guess I am unsure of what the question is, but I'll try again What you said was this: " I was wondering how does creation, say looking at the sunset, show characteristics of an abrahamic god, without referring to scripture or any written and oral reference related to christianity ? " " How "...
  2. Onoma

    The Cause for Poverty

    It's a good question ! I myself have experienced the extremes, having sunk so low as to have been addicted to hard drugs and living on the streets as a teen, having been raised in a home without running water, gas, electric or phones, etc, and conversely, I have found myself living " on top "...
  3. Onoma

    Russia has a vaccine

    " Only about 10% of clinical trials are successful " said enough for me....
  4. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    No, actually I'm pointing out your rather wonky logic :) I could easily take your position and say something like " Well, in my perfect universe, nobody gets sick or dies, nobody has to work for anything, toenails never need cutting, headaches never happen, my dishes do themselves , etc " I'm...
  5. Onoma

    Flood terminologies in the antiquities

    Right, so " rainbows " These are considered common omen in Babylonian texts and are associated with " crowns " on the gods ( Like the moon, Venus, etc ) which are in turn associated to eclipses ( An eclipse is a " crowning " ) A good book to start with this ( I feel aimed at the layman ) is...
  6. Onoma

    Flood terminologies in the antiquities

    Oh, here's a good example from Classic Babylonian literature, from the Enuma Anu Enlil series
  7. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Interesting, let's extend your reasons to include any and all things people could consider " bad " or " unpleasant " I have heard this response before, and it is usually put forth by those making statements like " Oh, how is God benevolent when babies get cancer ? ! " and so on So by "...
  8. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    In the early antiquities, it was mathematics and metrology that formed the basis of beliefs. They didn't just one day philosophize about " god ", they developed mathematics and metrology first, then philosophies around said math / measurements later
  9. Onoma

    Keys to mild vs severe Coronavirus illness start to come into view

    I'll say this When you have an infection in the alveoli where micelles are created by normal breathing, that are basically little viral packages encapsulated in pulmonary surfactant, which comprise the smallest particles to be generated by the lungs and exhaled, then these dry in the air to a...
  10. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Interesting answer Reminds me of how biologists working in the field will try to stay hidden from the very things they are observing in the attempt to not disturb the system they are observing I would do something just like that if I were an alien exobiologist studying humans on earth :P "...
  11. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    If I'm understanding the question correctly ( Is there something outside the Bible that is a precedent for the Abrahamic God ? ) - I would probably say that the Sumerian " Mes ", ( Themselves written to be associated with the 2 " Mes trees " in the garden of the gods ) which are essentially...
  12. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Interesting, thank you I find that to be at odds with what I know about historical beliefs in the antiquities, as the recording and calculation of the movements in the heavens were considered to be de facto the pinnacle of knowledge as it related to the gods Mathematics and religious beliefs...
  13. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    No, what I am saying is that since " scientific proof " isn't something that exists ( You don't prove a theory, you test it it in the attempt to falsify it ), and that math is how we objectively " prove " things, then by logic ( imo ) it makes sense to leave the " proof " in the form of...
  14. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Perhaps mock and ridicule their rituals and ceremonies, temples and claims ? Personally, If I were " God " I'd want to appear to be nothing more than to be a normal person, probably even a " loser " or someone considered to be from the dregs of society
  15. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Herein lays the major problem What constitutes " proof " for people generally changes with the person If I said " I can prove the Bible " is " God's word " to a mathematician, they would be expecting a rigorous proof using mathematics If I said " I can prove the Bible " is " God's word " to...
  16. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Fair enough, let me add this caveat Let's say this " proof " can be exposed at some time and then generally seen by anyone, but the origin of the exposing of the proof is not directly traceable to you Iow, nobody has a clue it's you, and you don't bother to admit it because you generally...
  17. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Interesting I could also see making an argument that it's benevolent to not leave any evidence or proof of my existence The reason would be that it would leave my creations always seeking and searching for answers, which is the spirit of science ( imo ) I feel like providing all the answers...
  18. Onoma

    Poll: OK, who does? (RTFM)

    Riding a bike at 60 ? Only thing I will ride at that age is a Big Wheel or a recliner
  19. Onoma

    Assume you are the " creator "

    Let's put aside the classic ancient tradition of a priest " creating " in real time by their words and choices ( Common in Egyptian priestly duties as an example ) and instead consider the supposed physical act of creation of the universe as it's often put forth by those attempting to literally...
  20. Onoma

    So Jesus is not God?

    Aside from the problem I have with the definition of " physical mind " ( What is that ? ) Wouldn't that then make Jesus not " all-powerful " ?
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