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  1. Vouthon

    Is Jesus Eternal?

    According to the beliefs assumed in the NT and by early Christians, yes. A consensus of scholars concur that the NT teaches the eternal pre-existence of Jesus i.e. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6, where explicitly the “Lord Jesus Christ” is posited as the one “through whom are all things". In the case of...
  2. Vouthon

    You're welcome - merry Noel Christine! Hope you and the hubbie have a great festive season

    You're welcome - merry Noel Christine! Hope you and the hubbie have a great festive season
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  3. Vouthon

    What Keeps You Coming Back to RF?

    Rival. Harel's wit. The company of friends engaged in good discussion and lively debate over theology, science (and sometimes, for good or ill) politics. It's been a feature of my life on-and-off for a decade now and I've had the pleasure of knowing some of my RF companions in real life. I...
  4. Vouthon

    Merry Christmas

    Merry Christmas Nick!! :sparklingheart::star:
  5. Vouthon

    Conservative or Liberal Jesus?

    But to answer the OP myself, I'd say that the historical Jesus would be neither conservative or liberal in our political terms. Jesus's ideology seems closest to what we might call (I guess!) revolutionary agrarian, theocratic anarcho-communism under a charismatic leader / cult of personality...
  6. Vouthon

    Conservative or Liberal Jesus?

    @9-10ths_Penguin In favour of the 'Stalinist' imperial Jesus 'after the social Galilean revolution and destruction of the temple', this passage is often cited: Luke 22:28-30: “You are those who have stood by me in my trials. And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me...
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    Conservative or Liberal Jesus?

    This is a perceptive and succinct answer. It aligns with the interpretation of the historical Jesus proposed by the scholar James Crossley, which is increasingly gaining ground. He thinks the earliest tradition suggests the Jesus movement was both 'revolutionary' and 'imperialist' in worldview...
  8. Vouthon

    to the RF Christians ...

    Thanks Jay, I for one plan to make merry this year!!
  9. Vouthon

    Oðan

    The carving reminds me a great deal of Gandalf / Olorin from the Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien. I see a wise-looking, elderly, bearded chap with a large pointy hat who appears to have a special relationship with, or affinity for, the animal kingdom and looks like Gandalf the Grey (who in...
  10. Vouthon

    CHRISTIANS ONLY: Trinitarian Christianity - Monotheistic or Polytheistic?

    Hello Ethan, Thanks for your very interesting post. I appreciate how confusing the claims of Trinitarianism can sound to those outside of the orthodox Christian fold. One of the reasons for this is that the Church Fathers, the early ante-Nicene theologians who formulated the language and...
  11. Vouthon

    Abrahamicism

    I agree with you, inasmuch as the Abrahamic faiths are heterogenous once you go beyond the core fundamentals that distinguish this (undeniably closely related) family of religions. Christianity emerged as a Jewish sect (originally Torah-observant) yet one of its core doctrines from the...
  12. Vouthon

    Happy Birthday Harel13!!!

    Have a great one Harel :thumbsup::birthdaycake:
  13. Vouthon

    Religious Beards

    There are no grooming or facial hair requirements in my faith for the laity, given that the Pauline theology underlying orthodox Christian churches, like mine, prizes so-called "Christian liberty" in terms of external choices relating to the body. Interestingly, however, there are canonical...
  14. Vouthon

    Pro-life is not just opposing abortion, Vatican says after U.S. ruling

    Indeed, the Church does believe in the 'primacy of conscience' (as we've both discussed many times at length before): “Man has the right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be...
  15. Vouthon

    Pro-life is not just opposing abortion, Vatican says after U.S. ruling

    Precisely, well-said Estro.
  16. Vouthon

    Pro-life is not just opposing abortion, Vatican says after U.S. ruling

    I think in context, it is important to bear in mind that the Vatican editorial speaks from an already assumed 'pro-life' (to use the American political jargon) perspective and starts from that as a presupposition. In the OP, the Vatican editorial was critiquing the stance of American pro-lifers...
  17. Vouthon

    Pro-life is not just opposing abortion, Vatican says after U.S. ruling

    Pro-life is not just opposing abortion, Vatican says after U.S. ruling | Reuters June 25 (Reuters) - Anti-abortion activists should be concerned with other issues that can threaten life, such as easy access to guns, poverty and rising maternity mortality rates, the Vatican's editorial director...
  18. Vouthon

    Music in Novus Ordo, and Music in Vetus Ordo

    Definitely the second of the two videos above, the TLM (Traditional Latin Mass). I actually attend Novus Ordo masses myself here in the UK and I've never experienced music akin to that in your first video, with guitars and the like. The Novus Ordos I've been to have much more solemn and...
  19. Vouthon

    Happy Birthday Vouthon!!!

  20. Vouthon

    Happy Birthday Vouthon!!!

    Thanks for the birthday wishes guys!!! :) I'll need to get back on the forum again and catch up with you all when time allows. I'm just about to board a flight from Glasgow back to London (in the office again tomorrow!) - but had a lovely 30th birthday with my family, starting with a big night...
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