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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    That is all I have ever claimed to have shown. You're clearly having a problem with my use of the term "evolution" to mean anything other than "evolutionary change caused by the mechanisms proposed by the theory of evolution." That's okay; I can live with that, although I strenuously disagree...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Not all organisms have existed since the beginning of life on this planet. If organisms appear in the fossil record subsequent to the earliest life forms, isn't it a logically inescapable conclusion that there must have been changes in the kinds of living organisms since the origin of life...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Observed changes in the types of organisms in existence over time. Are there any? Or are there not any? Pick any one.
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Changes in living organisms from the Permian to the Cenozoic. Changes in living organisms from the Hadean to the Triassic. Changes in living organisms from the Proterozoic to the Mesozoic. Did such changes happen, or did they not?
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Change from the types of organisms living in, say, the Permian, to organisms that live in the Cenozoic. I don't have to provide additional evidence that there has been a change from the kinds of organisms extant in the Permian to the kinds of organisms extant today, in the Cenozoic, do I? Do I...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    I brought them for one reason, and one reason only: to demonstrate that living organisms change over time. There were organisms in the past which no longer exist. There are organisms which exist now that did not exist in the past. You're the one who seems to have assumed from the very...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    So you call the observed change in the types of organisms over time "ericmurphy's bunny." I was thinking a more descriptive term would be better, but whatever. You know, Jay, so far I've been pretty civil to you. You've been nothing but abusive to me. I'm not playing the martyr; I'm just...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    How many times do I have to tell you that I do not think rabbits are evolved from trilobites, they're not descended from trilobites, trilobites are not the ancestors of rabbits, etc.? I've said this at least three times so far. The most anyone can say is that rabbits and trilobites must share a...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    I don't know what other term to use. Organisms have changed over time. What other term would you use to describe that change? God creating all life at once from nothing is not evolution. Nothing changes after the initial point of creation. Regardless of whether you believe life arose through...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Fine. Come up with another word for it. What word would you use to describe the phenomenon of observable changes in the types of organisms in existence over time? I am looking for a word that describes such changes without reference to any assumptions about what caused those changes. Can you do...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Because where, for crying out loud, did the rabbits come from? They came from somewhere, right? Either they arose through random mutation and natural selection from pre-existing forms, or god "poofed" them into existence at some point after he "poofed" other organisms into existence, or who...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    I don't believe this. I am not even DISCUSSING any mechanisms for evolution. How many times do I have to say that? Can anyone here distinguish between observation and inference? Then what is it? What would you term the change in organisms over time, without reference to any mechanisms proposed...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    It's clear that no matter how hard I try, I can either not get you to understand the difference between evolution itself and various theories that attempt to explain that evolution, or I cannot get you to admit that you understand the difference. Which is it?
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    I've done it six times already, but you're clearly either incapable of understanding it, or you're deliberately pretending not to. I AM NOT CLAIMING TO BE ABLE TO INFER THE CORRECTNESS OF THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION FROM THESE OBSERVATIONS. I HAVE SAID THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Stop it. How is "the observed change in the types of organisms over time" different from "the observed change in the types of organisms in existence over time"? As far as I can tell, they're exactly the same. Now knock off this stupidity about definitions, and answer the question: do you...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Yes, you keep saying this, but you don't explain why. Sorry; if you want me to take your criticism seriously, you're going to have to explain why it's nonsense. I don't think you can do that. You've had two days to do it, and haven't managed it yet.
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    The second and third are functionally identical. The first one was vaguely worded, because it didn't occur to me that anyone would suppose I meant evolution was synonymous with a change in the numbers of organisms over time. The fourth definition is taken from the Wikipedia definition for...
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    Evolution: Do you see the resemblence

    If you want to continue this discussion, do it in the right thread.
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    Jay, you still haven't explained what about my assertion you think is preposterous. You earlier implied you assumed I was claiming rabbits are descendants of trilobites, which is a radical misreading of what I actually said. I've straightened you out on that little problem, but it doesn't seem...
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    ericmurphy's bunnies

    I'm not overstating anything. If anything, you are overstating things by imputing to me conclusions I have not drawn. All I have done so far is kick the legs out from under the argument that evolution cannot happen. I've demonstrated, by reference to nothing but observation, that evolution...
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