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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    That's cool with me. Tibetan Buddhism is the direct heir of Indian Buddhism. That's why all the scholars call it the Indo-Tibetan tradition. You can google that term in Google Books. That's not my experience. I would say most Mahayana Buddhists view Madhyamaka as definitive. But you...
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    There is no such thing as an overall Buddhist tradition. The Indian tradition, and thus the Tibetan tradition, puts Madhyamaka at the top. These are just straw man arguments. I don't see whats so hard to understand that Madhyamaka is definitive out of all the sutra material. Again, this is...
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    According to Indian tradition it is. Look into Atisa, Kamalashila etc. The 2 major traditions of India were Madhyamaka and Yogacara. The Tathagatagarbha Sutras were never considered a tradition on par with Madhyamaka and Yogacara, let alone the pinnacle. I suggest you read "Center of...
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    I'm just a bundle of 5 aggregates (skandha), which are not established either. Skandha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    It is true that 99.999% of worldviews and beliefs are realist. I singled out atheism mainly because Muslims think they have nothing in common with atheists, and vice versa.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    I follow what scholars call the Indo-Tibetan tradition. You follow the Chinese tradition. Its very clear that the Indian tradition holds Madhyamaka paramount. This is the view of Atisa, Kamalaśīla etc.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    And we in Vajrayana consider Yogacara to be inferior to Madhyamaka.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    Madhyamaka is the distilled essence of Buddhadharma. Its unfortunate you don't see that. As you know Tibetan Buddhism holds Candrakirti paramount. So did Atisa.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    One cannot claim the mind exists.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    The tantric 'Buddha Nature' of Mahamudra merely refers to the nature of the mind. One cannot claim anything exists.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    :facepalm:
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    It is not that we claim non-existence, we merely remove claims for existence. We do not put forth a philosophical position. Nagarjuna said "If I had any position, I thereby would be at fault. Since I have no position, I am not at fault at all." Aryadeva said "Against someone who has no...
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    The Center of the Sunlit Sky: Madhyamaka in the Kagyü Tradition : Including ... - Karl Brunnhölzl - Google Books
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    If we are talking real Mahamudra, and not the 'sutra Mahamudra' of Gampopa, of course there is a difference.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    Mahamudra is based on a class of literature called tantras. Tathāgatagarbha Sutras are obviously sutras. Thats one difference. In Mahamudra, Buddha Nature is just one of several names applied to the inseparability of clarity and emptiness of the mind, which is a tantric concept...
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    Tathāgatagarbha Sutras are eternalistic. There is a reason why Candrakriti, Atisa etc. ignored these texts. The tantric "Buddha Nature" of Mahamudra of course is fine.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    Do you believe the universe exists?
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    I never called him an atheist. I called him a realist.
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    Yup. :yes:
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    Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

    It does.
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