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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I have considered that Zeno’s paradox is easy to resolve. Yes mathematically you can make divisions indefinitely, however when we travel we are not traveling by halves we are traveling a set distance over a set amount of time. If the distance is a mile and you can travel a mile in an hour, you...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I was acknowledging a particular point that relates to dealing with a common misunderstanding. The misunderstanding exists because people sometimes extend conclusions beyond what can be justified. In this particular case I consider that the argument supports the belief that something exists...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I acknowledge your point; I have admitted that God as understood in the context of this argument could at best be considered vaguely defined. However, I know that it is hard for people to understand the nature of how this kind of limitation works, therefore people react because it seems I am...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    If virtual particles do exist, they do so as a reaction to the interaction of real particles. They also have no mass and at best exist temporarily. This is hardly a case of something from nothing.
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    Converting energy into matter should be entirely possible and is perhaps only limited by our technology. This may in the future have practical implications but is inconsequential to my worldview. Scientists harnessing intelligence, matter and energy in order to create technology which is able to...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    This issue is inherently answered by the argument as I presented it. In short form - our universe exists within the constraints of physical laws, however for our universe to exist something must exist which is able to transcend those laws. That which can transcend the physical laws of our...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    From my perspective ideas like these and many others merely demonstrate how desperate some people to avoid the implications of theistic arguments. The sentences have some appearance of rationality but they break down when considered in the context of the real world. My argument is not...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    Thankfully both sides agree that something exists but some controversy exists over the concept of nothing. Some such as Professor Lawrence Kraus do not seem to make a real distinction between something and nothing. If it is possible that the term nothing can be used to describe something...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I consider that I am following a train of thought like we have in regards to considering an expanding universe. We see that it is expanding and we deduce the Big Bang as a result of thinking through the logical implications. We can also make a variety of projections concerning what will happen...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    You have no third option to suggest…. But you think I am unreasonable in discussing the issue within the context of what we know, ie the options that are available to us. Concerning the false dichotomy I consider discussing it within the context of something we know is a good and...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I would like to compare my understanding of a false dichotomy to your own. My understanding involves asserting that a false dichotomy has occurred when someone can provide a solution that is outside the possible conclusions that have been represented. In contrast yours seems to imply that unless...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    ---- This particular argument and several others that you have made fall into the category of asserting that speculation should be preferred over actuality. I don’t know that it is impossible that another option may exist. I make decisions and beliefs on the basis of actuality, what I do know...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    "I find neither supposedly "incomprehensible" aspect to be so. If you can comprehend circles, you can comprehend something that doesn't have a beginning or end. " We are considering two different things; I am considering something akin to the mere existence of the circle and the existence of...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    poly, do you care to elaborate within the bounds of natural law? In other words when we empirically observe sequence of effects we can see cause’s and affects. We observe cause and effect akin to observing a series of dominos falling. We cannot see all causes but no one has ever observed...
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    Cosmological argument, reformulated.

    I have attempted to reformulate the cosmological argument in a way that allows it to inherently answer’s some common objections. This formulation not only provides reasons for belief, it also demonstrates how atheistic conceptions are inadequate in relation to the origin of the universe. This...
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