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  1. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    The question of whether God does or does not exist is likely one that will not be proved by logic until He physically shows Himself once again—what one man accepts as evidence of God’s existence can be widely debated by others. Fortunately God does not ask us to blindly believe in Him without...
  2. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    I think you have a false idea about the nature and character of God. I think the source of this is twofold—which you’ve pointed out: 1) the portrayal of God in the Old Testament, and 2) The problem of pain. First, the people in the Old Testament were not as morally advanced as we are today so...
  3. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    I was just listening to a talk that I think expresses what we’ve been discussing, but in a more holistic way—which helps clarify some issues/doctrines that may otherwise be misunderstood when taken piecemeal. It was given just a week ago by one of our apostles: The Love of God
  4. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    The notion that sex is sinful is not intended at all. In fact, the first commandment that God gave (probably in indication of its importance as well) was to “multiply and replenish the earth” (Genesis 1:28). As you’ve said, this makes possible the potential progression of mankind. We consider...
  5. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    Perhaps I should have expressed it as “transgressed state” rather than “sinful state”. Regardless, by partaking of the fruit, they were no longer pure, and as such could not live in the presence of God.
  6. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    Might God include suffering in the mortal experience to potentially help us become better creatures? Suffering has the potential of either good or bad: turning us toward God “…we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience” (Romans 5:3), or away from God--eliciting...
  7. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    I agree that if Adam and Eve didn’t know good from evil, partaking of the fruit could not have been considered sin. I think God forbad them to partake of the fruit in the sense that it would have consequences (of mortality/death)—maybe called a transgression (breaking of a law), rather than a...
  8. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    This doctrine is probably unique to our church. Evidence for it comes from what we consider to be scripture: The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ: “…if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which...
  9. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    I see your point with regards to Eve’s ability to distinguish good from evil—in that comprehension of good and evil prior to exposure to it seems unlikely. However, it seems that the serpent/Satan does a fairly good job of explaining it—perhaps enough for Eve to make an informed decision...
  10. Strengthen Thy Brethren

    EVE! Legendary heroine of Humanity!

    I’m a bit late coming to this discussion. But yes, I agree that what Eve did was an extremely good thing! I wholeheartedly believe that Eve is the heroine of the human family—that she contemplated the consequences of her partaking of the fruit (that of thereby having knowledge of good and...
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