‘Dragon Man’ skull may help oust Neandertals as our closest ancient relative

[We Never Know]

The fossil may represent a new Homo species that lived more than 146,000 years ago.

"A fossil skull nicknamed “Dragon Man” has surfaced in China under mysterious circumstances, with big news for Neandertals. Dragon Man belonged to a previously unrecognized Stone Age species that replaces Neandertals as the closest known relatives of people today, researchers say.

A nearly complete male skull now housed in the Geoscience Museum of Hebei GEO University in Shijiazhuang, China, represents a species dubbed Homo longi by Hebei GEO paleoanthropologist Xijun Ni and his colleagues. The scientists describe the skull, which dates to at least 146,000 years ago, and analyze its position in Homo evolution in three papers published June 25 in The Innovation.

Qiang Ji, a paleontologist also at Hebei GEO, received the skull in 2018 from a farmer who said the fossil had been dug up by a coworker of his grandfather’s in 1933. During bridge construction over a river in Harbin, China, the worker allegedly scooped the skull out of river sediment. Whether or not that story is true, this fossil could help answer questions about a poorly understood period of human evolution.

“The Harbin cranium presents a combination of features setting it apart from other Homo species,” Ji says. The name H. longi derives from a Chinese term for the province where it was found, which translates as “dragon river.” That term inspired the nickname Dragon Man."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/dragon-man-skull-homo-longi-human-evolution-neandertals

 

[Altfish]

This really is an exciting find.
As ever science embraces such finds and will change and adapt to include this skull.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"A fossil skull nicknamed “Dragon Man” has surfaced in China under mysterious circumstances,

Truth be told, I stopped after that.
Mysteriously appeared? In China? I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Truth be told, I stopped after that.
Mysteriously appeared? In China? I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax.

That sounds like a knee jerk reaction.
Mention China and it must be suspect.
American propagandists are doing a very effective job.

 

[We Never Know]

Truth be told, I stopped after that.
Mysteriously appeared? In China? I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax.

I was kind of skeptical on that sentence as well, but read on. It will be interesting of what comes about the find.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Truth be told, I stopped after that.
Mysteriously appeared? In China? I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax.

Its a possibility, but China does harbor some amazing archeology and paleontology, so I'm giving this the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Its a possibility, but China does harbor some amazing archeology and paleontology, so I'm giving this the benefit of the doubt for now.

I'd want to see it verified by another source. China may have a lot of fascinating history and archeology, but also Xi can't be trusted. And if "appeared under mysterious circumstances" I very much want to see more before accepting it as factual.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That sounds like a knee jerk reaction.
Mention China and it must be suspect.
American propagandists are doing a very effective job.

Nope. I do not trust the Chinese state. It has such a record of lying that they say it's night I'm going to check for myself.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Nope. I do not trust the Chinese state. It has such a record of lying that they say it's night I'm going to check for myself.

China do not so much lie, but just like all states including the USA or UK, do not feel the need to tell the whole truth.
The west regards anything that China says that is contrary to their own opinions as lies.

In many respects it is far more straightforward to understand what China says and does than it is with the USA.
The main difference is one of long term as against short term.
China has always planned and acted in the long term interest of China. Not in the personal interest of individuals or even corporations.

The USA reacts to short term problems, and then only when it has to
It is loath to spend money or resources on infrastructure or the welfare of its people, such expenditure is difficult to quantify in terms of profit.

China Does not differentiate between these things, they all become part of the long term plan.
Such a strategy takes very little regard for repercussions for the individual, region or industry, if it is to the long term benefit of China and its people as a whole.

At what ever level, if you oppose the Chines State or work against its interest, you are doomed.
Even Billionaire industrial and politic leaders are subject to the same instant response.

In the USA such people and corporations are virtually above the law.
In China they are subject to the state.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

China do not so much lie, but just like all states including the USA or UK, do not feel the need to tell the whole truth.
The west regards anything that China says that is contrary to their own opinions as lies.

Because they do, like how they likely did some nasty under reporting with covid.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Because they do, like how they likely did some nasty under reporting with covid.

Do you not remember Trump's first official view about covid.

Within a very short time China had isolated and virtually controlled it's spread in the country.. They had nothing like the deaths and major health problems experienced by the USA.
They developed their own vaccine which they have been distributing to third world countries... They informed all world health organisations, including those in the USA. From the word go. It is true that before it was officially recognised news of it was suppressed. Much the same as it was elsewhere.
That the. USA did not act on it, or pass it to the media is not China's problem.

Initially trump praised them for the effectiveness of their action. When it showed up his own lack of action at a federal level, he reversed his position and started to blame China, for the Chinese virus. Such effective action as there was, was initiated by individual states and cities. There was virtually no central direction. The death toll in the USA has been disasterous.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you not remember Trump's first official view about covid.

Yup. Trump is another who lies so frequently he can't be trusted. If he says it's raining I'm going to go check.

Within a very short time China had isolated and virtually controlled it's spread in the country.. They had nothing like the deaths and major health problems experienced by the USA.

Different mentalities and China has a lot of control over its citizens, even when they are in another country.

 

[Harel13]

I was excited until I realized this does not mean we're descended from dragons...

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I was excited until I realized this does not mean we're descended from dragons...

who knows?
If you go back far enough.

 

[Harel13]

who knows?
If you go back far enough.

Maybe, but the nickname "Dragon Man" is not proof of this in any case.

 

[InChrist]

The fossil may represent a new Homo species that lived more than 146,000 years ago.

"A fossil skull nicknamed “Dragon Man” has surfaced in China under mysterious circumstances, with big news for Neandertals. Dragon Man belonged to a previously unrecognized Stone Age species that replaces Neandertals as the closest known relatives of people today, researchers say.

A nearly complete male skull now housed in the Geoscience Museum of Hebei GEO University in Shijiazhuang, China, represents a species dubbed Homo longi by Hebei GEO paleoanthropologist Xijun Ni and his colleagues. The scientists describe the skull, which dates to at least 146,000 years ago, and analyze its position in Homo evolution in three papers published June 25 in The Innovation.

Qiang Ji, a paleontologist also at Hebei GEO, received the skull in 2018 from a farmer who said the fossil had been dug up by a coworker of his grandfather’s in 1933. During bridge construction over a river in Harbin, China, the worker allegedly scooped the skull out of river sediment. Whether or not that story is true, this fossil could help answer questions about a poorly understood period of human evolution.

“The Harbin cranium presents a combination of features setting it apart from other Homo species,” Ji says. The name H. longi derives from a Chinese term for the province where it was found, which translates as “dragon river.” That term inspired the nickname Dragon Man."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/dragon-man-skull-homo-longi-human-evolution-neandertals

“A gigantic fossilized skull that was hidden in a well in China for 90 years has just been discovered by scientists — and it's making them rethink human evolution.”
Massive "Dragon Man" skull found in China might be a new human evolutionary branch - CBS News

If one believes the biblical accounts, this find of a gigantic human skull makes sense...




“Needless to say, we already know that giants once lived in that part of the world.

In fact, one particularly famous giant that lived in the region was named “Goliath”.

But scientists will never admit the truth, because they have trained us to regard those stories as “myths”.

So they will never, ever make any connection between the discoveries that they are making and Genesis chapter 6…”
They Refuse To Believe The Truth Even When It Is Right In Front Of Their Eyes

 

[night912]

Truth be told, I stopped after that.
Mysteriously appeared? In China? I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hoax.

That's just shows how poor your epistemology is. There are numerous legitimate findings that were "mysteriously" discovered.

Just out of curiosity, how far did you read into an article about how the terracotta army was mysteriously found? Did you dismissed one of the biggest archeological discovery in the 20th century as being a haox in the manner as well?

FYI,
The terracotta army was found to be not the actual army of the emperor of China. All those soldiers found were fakes, and not the actual men who served in the army of the emperor.