‘Free will’ is not an excuse for God allowing atrocities.

[DNB]

"A Wicca" lol. Yes, I changed my faith after much thought. People are allowed to do that, you know. It all goes back to free will.

...but, you appear now confused. You had a lot of disparaging remarks to be made against God and Christianity, but now your credibility appears to be in question, does it not?

 

[KWED]

All you are doing here is saying that Muslims scholars are irrational.

You referred to "billions of people", not "Muslim scholars". However, it is clear that Muslim scholars are often inconsistent or contradictory, and at times disingenuous. They each have an agenda to promote, sometimes more than one.

Anyone who wilfully ignores evidence and rational argument simply because it contradicts their belief in the supernatural is irrational.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Anyone who wilfully ignores evidence and rational argument simply because it contradicts their belief in the supernatural is irrational.

That's obvious, and is purely your claim that we do.
It is not irrational to believe that G-d could know what we will freely choose in the future. Your claim of irrationality is mere word-play, and relies on our perception of the passing of time.

It has been scientifically shown that our perception of time is only that ..
..a perception.
'now' is only a perception, and is not definitive in a cosmic sense.

 

[Ashoka]

...but, you appear now confused. You had a lot of disparaging remarks to be made against God and Christianity, but now your credibility appears to be in question, does it not?

I'm not confused. And I still feel the same way about Christianity *shrug*

 

[KWED]

...but, you appear now confused. You had a lot of disparaging remarks to be made against God and Christianity, but now your credibility appears to be in question, does it not?

How does criticising the Christian god prevent one from being Wiccan? WADR, it seems you are the one confused.

 

[KWED]

That's obvious, and is purely your claim that we do.
It is not irrational to believe that G-d could know what we will freely choose in the future. Your claim of irrationality is mere word-play, and relies on our perception of the passing of time.

It has been scientifically shown that our perception of time is only that ..
..a perception.
'now' is only a perception, and is not definitive in a cosmic sense.

I wasn't'r referring specifically to the free will paradox (which you haven't come close to solving with your "but time is relative" argument).
I was referring to the litany of claims by and about god that are demonstrably false or irrational.

 

[DNB]

I'm not confused. And I still feel the same way about Christianity *shrug*

My point was, you can't even make up your mind about your understanding of truth. You're religion hopping, going from one extreme to another '...like waves on the ocean tossed to and fro...'
I'm not affected about what you feel about Christianity, but I'm merely exposing the fact that, due to your indecisive and frivolous behaviour in regard to your religious convictions, your insights and opinions lack credibility now.

 

[DNB]

How does criticising the Christian god prevent one from being Wiccan? WADR, it seems you are the one confused.

Considering, as usual, that you didn't understand a thing that I said, would it not be more appropriate and accurate to ascribe confusion to yourself?

 

[Ashoka]

My point was, you can't even make up your mind about your understanding of truth. You're religion hopping, going from one extreme to another '...like waves on the ocean tossed to and fro...'
I'm not affected about what you feel about Christianity, but I'm merely exposing the fact that, due to your indecisive and frivolous behaviour in regard to your religious convictions, your insights and opinions lack credibility now.

I feel like you are deflecting. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand and is better suited for a private message.

 

[KWED]

My point was, you can't even make up your mind about your understanding of truth. You're religion hopping, going from one extreme to another '...like waves on the ocean tossed to and fro...'
I'm not affected about what you feel about Christianity, but I'm merely exposing the fact that, due to your indecisive and frivolous behaviour in regard to your religious convictions, your insights and opinions lack credibility now.

Do you similarly reject the credibility of those who convert to Christianity from other religions?
What's that? You don't?
Why would that be?

 

[Hawkins]

It obviously has nothing to do with god being helpless to intervene because of the killer’s free will.

Humans die in one way or another, there's not a particular way of dying that is more beneficial. Men die once, while God saves souls. Earth is for all evil to show up such that God can legitimately and lawfully eradicate evil once and for all through a legal process known as the Final Judgment. If evil doesn't show up or is stopped before showing up, it cannot be destroyed by Law and an evil-free Heaven cannot be built.

God's other job is to "wipe out our tears" such that no one complains in eternity (which is known as Heaven).

 

[SkepticThinker]

Humans die in one way or another, there's not a particular way of dying that is more beneficial. Men die once, while God saves souls. Earth is for all evil to show up such that God can legitimately and lawfully eradicate evil once and for all through a legal process known as the Final Judgment. If evil doesn't show up or is stopped before showing up, it cannot be destroyed by Law and an evil-free Heaven cannot be built.

God's other job is to "wipe out our tears" such that no one complains in eternity (which is known as Heaven).

It sounds like your God is constrained by a ton of external rules.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Humans die in one way or another, there's not a particular way of dying that is more beneficial. Men die once, while God saves souls. Earth is for all evil to show up such that God can legitimately and lawfully eradicate evil once and for all through a legal process known as the Final Judgment. If evil doesn't show up or is stopped before showing up, it cannot be destroyed by Law and an evil-free Heaven cannot be built.

God's other job is to "wipe out our tears" such that no one complains in eternity (which is known as Heaven).

How silly... any god with even a modicum of intelligence would have simply not created evil to begin with.

 

[DNB]

I feel like you are deflecting. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand and is better suited for a private message.

True!

 

[DNB]

Do you similarly reject the credibility of those who convert to Christianity from other religions?
What's that? You don't?
Why would that be?

You win, you are the king of non-sequiturs, missing the point, and straying from the context.
The point was (why do I bother), she was being religiously promiscuous.

 

[Ashoka]

You win, you are the king of non-sequiturs, missing the point, and straying from the context.
The point was (why do I bother), she was being religiously promiscuous.

You know, in my line of work, I have been called a lot of things...but promiscuous is a new one. lol.

 

[KWED]

You win, you are the king of non-sequiturs, missing the point, and straying from the context.
The point was (why do I bother), she was being religiously promiscuous.

So what? Are you similarly critical of religiously promiscuous people who settle on Christianity?
You're not?
Why the inconsistency?

 

[DNB]

You know, in my line of work, I have been called a lot of things...but promiscuous is a new one. lol.

...I stretched the meaning a bit - indiscriminate with your religious convictions.

 

[DNB]

So what? Are you similarly critical of religiously promiscuous people who settle on Christianity?
You're not?
Why the inconsistency?

YES, I FLIPPIN' AM AS CRITICAL!!!
I would say the exact same to any convert to any religion, that couldn't make up their flippin' mind on truth and reality.
Do you not think that I detest pseudo-Christians, charlatans, corrupt pastors and preachers, Christian heretics and apostates???

 

[Ashoka]

YES, I FLIPPIN' AM AS CRITICAL!!!

Seriously, drink some tea. Do some breathing exercises. It's gonna be okay. I promise.