Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
You hit the nail on the head. These are lesser compared to Devi and Brahman. Hence hinduism is failing.
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“Hindus fall because they worship lesser gods.” Abrahamics are trampling Hindus. Can you help me understand?
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Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Elohim is Brahman. Yahweh is Brahma.
Para Brahman is nirguna - without qualities or attributes - devoid of Maya. This cannot be said for the God of Abraham, as in each scripture, he is described with qualities and attributes.
The two are distinct because they are of two distinct paradigms.
Elohim is deity. Brahman is no deity.
No, they are not "lesser". They are Saguna Brahman. Brahman with qualities and attributes.
Hinduism's longevity speaks for itself. There is no evidence that it is falling or failing, despite what you want people to believe.
Supreme cannot be lesser, by definition. Carry on.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Can you explain more about the differences between Elohim and YHWH and how YHWH is a lesser god?
Now I need to change the words. because I've been writing YHWH Allah Brahman, the same God, only one God. I'll research Brahman and Brahma. Just think about only missing one letter 'n'
Here's an example of me writing that. Little do I know still.
Edit I updated there too
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala what do you think about this short video
Update I learned it's Elohim, Allah and Brahman are the same God; only one God.
The difference between Brahma and Brahman
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Brahma is the one who was associated
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with Creation The Creator but Brahman is
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the substratum the underlying
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Consciousness which pervades everything
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two different things are there
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Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Agree. And since most Hindus dont worship the supreme but his lower manifestations, therefore, Hinduism is failing.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
History teaches that it teaches nothing. The vitality of Hinduism has been finished by Shankaracharya's Mayavaad.
The evidence is all over. Hindus converting at a rapid pace. Hindus adopting foreign countries and and working against Indian interests. Hindu leadership extended from Indonesia to Anatolia. Now we are fighting to preserve ourselves within India.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Bible uses Elohim and Yahweh--two words for God. Elohim is impersonal (I read that Nirguna). Yahweh is personal (Saguna).
Please present supporting evidence for this claim.
You keep saying this, but you have yet to produce a shred of evidence supporting it.
So then, Christianity is failing, too? Most Christians don't worship Elohim.
Just where are you getting this information from? Every Hindu I know worships the Supreme. Have you been reading too much anti-Hindu propaganda, or are you a member of another religion infiltrating us?
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Read kalyan. Plus my living experience.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Yes. That is the reason hinduism and christianity are losing ground to islam.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
It is all over. Why ghar vapasi? But I wish I had the time to collate the evidence for you.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Where can I find English-language content about Kalyan and reading your living experience?
Can you post some of it here, so I can read it?
Your living experience, being one person in 1.2 billion, isn't exactly statistically valid for the entirety of Hinduism.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
Everyone check this out. I was able to translate.
Please scroll down below to see the full English translation.
www.kalyan-gitapress.org
To translate in English
Google Chrome: go to 3 dots, upper right, then click
Scroll down 'til you see translate, and click
Click on English.
Spiritual monthly magazine published from Geeta Press Gorakhpur
Click below to read the monthly issues of Kalyan
Here's Kalyan for May 2023
Here's an example showing cows.
Maybe I can use Google Lens to translate this page, or maybe you can help explain what this page says, @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Good News I was able to translate this page.
Keep scrolling to the bottom of this post to see in English. I also show how.
Keep in mind that this is one of the pages in the pdf.
I was able to do it. How exciting!
I right-click, then click the search image with Google, and translate. I can even listen to it as well.
Keep scrolling down this page and I copy paste the English.
I'll copy and paste here
cover photo introduction
Gopalak cow worship
Among the many purposes of God's incarnation, worship and protection of cows is also an important purpose, because all the gods reside inside the cows. The cow is divine. By singing and worshiping, all the gods are worshiped and their blessings are also obtained. In this world, Gaika has a place like a mother; Because like mother, she is the embodiment of affection. That is why Gopal made his name Gopal meaningful by starting his childhood with cow worship.
Cows were very dear to Gopal. He used to serve them very well. One day Lord Krishna said to his friends - 'Friends! There is no one in the world as helpful as a cow. She nourishes us like a mother by giving us milk, curd and ghee like nectar, hence she is worshiped and worshiped like a mother. Today is Gopashtami. We will decorate the cow very well with flowers and gems. We will offer him various types of dishes and worship him thoroughly with all the treatments. There is no greater virtue in the world than cow service and cow worship and there is no greater blessing from any god or sage than his blessings. Worship of cows is God-worship, the one who serves and worships them is free from the troubles of the world.
Nothing is rare. Therefore, today we will all express our gratitude to these affectionate cow-mothers by serving them for their infinite kindness. It was late due to Gopal's order that all the cowherds
Many types of flowers like marigold, Malti, Hibiscus, lotus etc. were piled up. All the people together decorated the cows in various ways, decorated them with different types of necklaces and flower garlands and tied sweet-sounding bells around their necks. Lord Shyamsundar himself decorated the cows and fed them various types of dishes. All the cows stood up quietly and accepted his worship and filled the cowherds' bags with their silent blessings in their hearts. At last Gopal along with all the cowherd boys accepted the remaining Prasad from the cows with great love.
Dressing up the singer Karavat at the door of Shyam Kharik. The neck fair necklace was decorated with horns in many ways. The bell's neck is covered with pearl plates on the back. Kinkini Nupur's feet are in constant progress. By this method, the beauty of Vraj cow's beauty increased immensely. Blissful Lord Dhenu, in all his attire, everyone is a fool. The beautiful form of Lord Krishna's cows and
Describing the adornment, Maharishi Gargaji writes: They resembled white mountains and were adorned with divine ornaments They were decorated with bells and chains and a network of bells They had golden horns and necklaces equal to gold.
That is, millions of beautiful cows are seen at every door there. Those cows are adorned with divine ornaments and appear like white mountains. Their bells and bells keep making melodious sounds. The horns of those cows adorned with red nets have been plated with gold. She wears golden necklaces and garlands. Radiance keeps emanating from his body parts.
Please scroll down below to see the full English translation.
कल्याण गीता प्रेस
www.kalyan-gitapress.org
To translate in English
Google Chrome: go to 3 dots, upper right, then click
Scroll down 'til you see translate, and click
Click on English.
Spiritual monthly magazine published from Geeta Press Gorakhpur
Click below to read the monthly issues of Kalyan
Here's Kalyan for May 2023
Here's an example showing cows.
Maybe I can use Google Lens to translate this page, or maybe you can help explain what this page says, @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Good News I was able to translate this page.
Keep scrolling to the bottom of this post to see in English. I also show how.
Keep in mind that this is one of the pages in the pdf.
I was able to do it. How exciting!
I right-click, then click the search image with Google, and translate. I can even listen to it as well.
Keep scrolling down this page and I copy paste the English.
I'll copy and paste here
cover photo introduction
Gopalak cow worship
Among the many purposes of God's incarnation, worship and protection of cows is also an important purpose, because all the gods reside inside the cows. The cow is divine. By singing and worshiping, all the gods are worshiped and their blessings are also obtained. In this world, Gaika has a place like a mother; Because like mother, she is the embodiment of affection. That is why Gopal made his name Gopal meaningful by starting his childhood with cow worship.
Cows were very dear to Gopal. He used to serve them very well. One day Lord Krishna said to his friends - 'Friends! There is no one in the world as helpful as a cow. She nourishes us like a mother by giving us milk, curd and ghee like nectar, hence she is worshiped and worshiped like a mother. Today is Gopashtami. We will decorate the cow very well with flowers and gems. We will offer him various types of dishes and worship him thoroughly with all the treatments. There is no greater virtue in the world than cow service and cow worship and there is no greater blessing from any god or sage than his blessings. Worship of cows is God-worship, the one who serves and worships them is free from the troubles of the world.
Nothing is rare. Therefore, today we will all express our gratitude to these affectionate cow-mothers by serving them for their infinite kindness. It was late due to Gopal's order that all the cowherds
Many types of flowers like marigold, Malti, Hibiscus, lotus etc. were piled up. All the people together decorated the cows in various ways, decorated them with different types of necklaces and flower garlands and tied sweet-sounding bells around their necks. Lord Shyamsundar himself decorated the cows and fed them various types of dishes. All the cows stood up quietly and accepted his worship and filled the cowherds' bags with their silent blessings in their hearts. At last Gopal along with all the cowherd boys accepted the remaining Prasad from the cows with great love.
Dressing up the singer Karavat at the door of Shyam Kharik. The neck fair necklace was decorated with horns in many ways. The bell's neck is covered with pearl plates on the back. Kinkini Nupur's feet are in constant progress. By this method, the beauty of Vraj cow's beauty increased immensely. Blissful Lord Dhenu, in all his attire, everyone is a fool. The beautiful form of Lord Krishna's cows and
Describing the adornment, Maharishi Gargaji writes: They resembled white mountains and were adorned with divine ornaments They were decorated with bells and chains and a network of bells They had golden horns and necklaces equal to gold.
That is, millions of beautiful cows are seen at every door there. Those cows are adorned with divine ornaments and appear like white mountains. Their bells and bells keep making melodious sounds. The horns of those cows adorned with red nets have been plated with gold. She wears golden necklaces and garlands. Radiance keeps emanating from his body parts.
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