This is not "negation of the world."
Sankara taught Advaita Vedanta. I have already told you that this school of philosophy does not teach "negation of the world."
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“Hindus fall because they worship lesser gods.” Abrahamics are trampling Hindus. Can you help me understand?
- Thread starter River Sea
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Sankara taught Advaita Vedanta. I have already told you that this school of philosophy does not teach "negation of the world."
Are you a Hindu(hope not).
If you are not a Hindu, please don't worry about us.
If you are a Hindu, I think the religion is not for you. I would recommend a conversion to something more appropriately worldly. Though I am not sure what. May you be content in your chosen path.
His profile indicates he's Hindu. His posts lead me to believe otherwise.
Enai de a lukal
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I can't say I've come across this phenomenon before, but it is of course silly since there's nothing more rational or superior about having fewer gods. One god results in incoherency- so much for one god to do, contrary things even. If have you have to posit gods, you may as well posit at least two. Just ask the Christians who did some Jewish fan fiction and invented the Devil, or the Christians who were so hard up for more deities they invented the Trinity. Or ask Hume; the good old "argument from design", that theistic apologetic canard, when taken seriously is an argument for polytheism.
If anything, its the polytheists who ought to be mocking the monotheists... Only one god? How pathetic!
(and yet, the atheist stands over here chuckling at both the Hindu and the Christian- better still to not believe in any gods)
If anything, its the polytheists who ought to be mocking the monotheists... Only one god? How pathetic!
(and yet, the atheist stands over here chuckling at both the Hindu and the Christian- better still to not believe in any gods)
Yes, medication can be useful at times. However, the article was talking about meditation. Freudian slip, perhaps.
I concur. I have never met such a negative Nellie with regard to Hinduism in my life. Time to stop responding I think. GOM syndrome.
You've never been a neutral observer in the atheist versus theist debate, I presume.
Enai de a lukal
Well-Known Member
I thought this was a debate between a Hindu and a member of an Abrahamic faith? If/when the Hindu and the Abrahamic theist argue about the proper number of deities, the atheist does have the privilege of sitting in the corner and snickering
The 'Hindu' in question isn't a Hindu at all, but an Abrahamic in disguise, so the whole debate is moot. But you're correct in that anybody without a stake in any debate has a better view on it, and usually a better take.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
निंदक नियरे रखिये। बिन साबुन पानी बिना निर्मल करे सुभाव। yes I am critical of hinduism. Just as jesus and dayanand saraswati and many others were. Those who do not recognize the positive in criticism meet failure as hinduism today.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Born hindu. A new, a christian and a muslim by belief.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
The atheist may read jung and Goff to understand the world of psyche.
Enai de a lukal
Well-Known Member
The theist may read Nietzsche and Draper and Oppy and understand the world of reality.
I've read a great deal of Jung, as it happens, I went through a period where I read little else. Interesting, creative writer, almost more of an artist or poet than a academic or theorist at times. Slopyy thinking, though, of little value here, and of course merely gesturing at it adds literally nothing to the conversation.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
I am not a Christian, nor am I a Muslim, nor am I a Hindu. I'm not a Catholic. I'm not Jewish. I'm not born into any of these either.
Yet I'll discuss with all, exploring areas.
Now can we discuss why Romans taken German land causing it more difficult to flee from in order not to get crucified, I learn this after you told me I'm born Christian. and I had a thread to research more. however I learn so sensitive area. Who are the Romans anyways. Were they born what? Were they told they were what?
because how could people flee for safety if Romans control all the lands, look how easy it was for Moses and Krishna to flee, not far to go to be safe, yet by the time Romans taken land, how difficult it is to find safety. Even taken German land even. If Moses and Krishna was living during the time of Romans controlling areas would Moses and Krishna would had been crucified too?
What lesser Gods Romans taken German land, causing increased lands not able to flee for safety from any Crucifixion victims including John the Baptist who the Mandaeism followed?
Showing what happen to German land
What all did the Germans go through during this time?
Tiberius had a brilliant military career and with his younger brother Drusus helped carry out the expansion of the Roman empire along the Danube and into modern day Germany (16 BC - 7 BC, 4 AD - 9 AD). In 11 BC, Augustus forced Tiberius to divorce his wife Vipsania and marry Julia, Augustus' daughter.
How many Germans were also crucified too? We need this discussion, we need. Were Germans Christians or what belief systems? Mandaeism? Or? Or victims too? The Romans taken their land how come? Where can anyone flee to, where? Further down I show. Please help me understand who are the Romans, who are they? I need help in this area? I'm confused?
Yeah good points you have @Aupmanyav and how far wide is this land that included Germany too? How could Jesus escape and what about John the Baptist, what all did the Mandaeism went through? Were there any Masonic Jews of yet? Similar to Masada, yet how far wide was the land compare to protecting oneself from the Romans?
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Jesus was a human priest a lesser god our brother, who John the Baptist baptized, Jesus was born in April, and the symbols of eggs, Easter is the time Jesus was born. Shows this as well as Joseph traveled to Bethlehem for reason for census that takes place not in December but in April, during time Jesus was born at Bethlehem.
What are the similarities from priest Jesus compared to priest Abraham? What is a priest?
How come the Mandaeism doesn't considered Moses as a prophet, what is the difference from prophet and priest?
What happen to @Bthoth
Jesus and the Egyptian Prophet
Unlike the Synoptic Gospels, John 18:3 and 18:12 state that Jesus on the Mount of Olives was confronted by a speira – a Roman cohort of 500 to 1,000 soldiers. This suggestion of a battle preceding Jesus’ arrest is reminiscent of an event described by
www.academia.edu
Why did Romans take Germans land, why???
Who is Pilate who? Was it ok or not ok to cause people to be victims in this death penalties, for what reasons? Can I finally have this discussion please?????????????????
Who are the victims, how many love ones witness having victims due to the power of the Romans who taken their lands? How sensitive is this discussion please explain this please?
What is the similarities of North Korea and Rome?
How come some victims had their head chopped off quickly died compare to slow death cross, who chosen which way?
What was it like to be Pilate's mother, any imagination here to explore this?
Were there any Pharaohs in KMT that's what called during Romans taken German land, was it called Egypt of yet, were there any Pharaohs @Tamino
Thank you so so so so much for your helping me
I now understand this word pros·tra·tion @Tamino
Thank you @Tamino for your support, and helping me with word prostration - means To answer your actual question: there is a gesture of bowing to a superior that is pretty close to lying down. It's usually described as "seni ta" in text: "smelling the earth"
No I hadn't yet answer your other questions, which I'll begin now. Or some what.
you wrote: Egyptian deities are, in general, not jealous.
My response: that's good to hear. I really am not sure of the word jealous, maybe I've been jealous before I'm sure I have, however in this topic, as suddenly this word Jealous in description of gods, vs, what was the other word?
What is Jealous? What is that? Or if finding self feeling Jealous how to over come that., see that's what I'm more interested in, is if one finds oneself in that, how to over come and what a person can learn from that, vs this oh these gods or so so was never, I'm like who are these pharaohs, however good to hear they're never jealous as for some odd reason, reasoning these gods of was it Abraham a jealous god?
I'll address more to your post later, I'm sure you have a lot there, or maybe here I'll -- take a closer look
1. Egyptian deities are, in general, not jealous. There are no myths or allusions on this topic. Egyptian deities might sometimes be in conflict with each other, but those conflicts are usually Metaphors on natural phenomena or social dynamics. (Conflict of Horus and Seth, for example, is all about kingship, inheritance, and generational renewal).
lets see, you claim no myths or allusions on this topic there's Horus and Seth again, I did learn that Horus didn't kill anyone but set did. Cain killed Abel, Set killed who? I forgot,
here it is
@Tamino this is when I learned that Set killed Osiris and Horus didn't kill anyone
@Tamino and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala here's vid showing prostration (I'll send this post and see if not to long of post so can send) Later I'll go back and edit.
I saw this video showing prostration, if you click on video, it takes you there.
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River Sea
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Thank you @Tamino for your support, and helping me with word prostration - means To answer your actual question: there is a gesture of bowing to a superior that is pretty close to lying down. It's usually described as "seni ta" in text: "smelling the earth"
@Tamino
So Horus and Seth is all about kingship, inheritance, and generational renewal.
You explain the word prostration, means gesture of bowing to a superior. It's usually described as "seni ta" in text: smelling the earth.
You asked, how would you define lesser gods?
In terms of the powers ascribed to them (is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not...)?
Their position in a hierarchy, as in whether they are titled as the "king of gods" or "queen of heaven"?
Their historical importance (where are they worshipped, how long, how many followers...)?
1) is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not?
Dictionary
om·nip·o·tent
/ämˈnipədənt/
adjective
(of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything.
"God is described as omnipotent and benevolent"
Dictionary what is benevolent
Definitions of benevolent. adjective. showing or motivated by sympathy and understanding and generosity.
and the answer is?
Lets have a memory lane shall we on how I was blocked from public Facebook group take a look of a question I Misérables failed at
I made a thread due to my failures of couldn't answer it properly. That's the question that was asked in order for me to join and I was blocked immediately for failing how to answer? I made a thread due to my forever not knowing this type of language. It still confuses me as I look at this question?
Oh take a look at another failure, I couldn't finish this book, how come?
I do finally recognize Akhenaten due to he began Monotheism God?
However looking at my screenshot I recognize Akhenaten now., as I learned more about Akhenaten., he's the one who began one God Monotheism., and yet what all happened during that time see, now I can get into this., by focusing on one person at a time and remain with that for a while before learning other people. And imagine for a while too., example the transitioning from many to one and what all happened?
1) is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not?
What do you all think? Give me your thoughts on this? I'm still exploring what is omnipotent compare to what is benevolent? I need to slow down and learn these two words.
@Tamino
So Horus and Seth is all about kingship, inheritance, and generational renewal.
You explain the word prostration, means gesture of bowing to a superior. It's usually described as "seni ta" in text: smelling the earth.
You asked, how would you define lesser gods?
In terms of the powers ascribed to them (is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not...)?
Their position in a hierarchy, as in whether they are titled as the "king of gods" or "queen of heaven"?
Their historical importance (where are they worshipped, how long, how many followers...)?
1) is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not?
Dictionary
om·nip·o·tent
/ämˈnipədənt/
adjective
(of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything.
"God is described as omnipotent and benevolent"
Dictionary what is benevolent
Definitions of benevolent. adjective. showing or motivated by sympathy and understanding and generosity.
and the answer is?
Lets have a memory lane shall we on how I was blocked from public Facebook group take a look of a question I Misérables failed at
I made a thread due to my failures of couldn't answer it properly. That's the question that was asked in order for me to join and I was blocked immediately for failing how to answer? I made a thread due to my forever not knowing this type of language. It still confuses me as I look at this question?
Oh take a look at another failure, I couldn't finish this book, how come?
I do finally recognize Akhenaten due to he began Monotheism God?
However looking at my screenshot I recognize Akhenaten now., as I learned more about Akhenaten., he's the one who began one God Monotheism., and yet what all happened during that time see, now I can get into this., by focusing on one person at a time and remain with that for a while before learning other people. And imagine for a while too., example the transitioning from many to one and what all happened?
1) is a god imagined to be omnipotent or not?
What do you all think? Give me your thoughts on this? I'm still exploring what is omnipotent compare to what is benevolent? I need to slow down and learn these two words.
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River Sea
Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala find this in English then
it's not in English at all.
Everyone check this out. I was able to translate.
Please scroll down below to see the full English translation.
कल्याण गीता प्रेस
www.kalyan-gitapress.org
To translate in English
Google Chrome: go to 3 dots, upper right, then click
Scroll down 'til you see translate, and click
Click on English.
Spiritual monthly magazine published from Geeta Press Gorakhpur
Click below to read the monthly issues of Kalyan
Here's Kalyan for May 2023
Here's an example showing cows.
Maybe I can use Google Lens to translate this page, or maybe you can help explain what this page says, @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Good News I was able to translate this page.
Keep scrolling to the bottom of this post to see in English. I also show how.
Keep in mind that this is one of the pages in the pdf.
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I was able to do it. How exciting!
I right-click, then click the search image with Google, and translate. I can even listen to it as well.
Keep scrolling down this page and I copy paste the English.
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I'll copy and paste here
cover photo introduction
Gopalak cow worship
Among the many purposes of God's incarnation, worship and protection of cows is also an important purpose, because all the gods reside inside the cows. The cow is divine. By singing and worshiping, all the gods are worshiped and their blessings are also obtained. In this world, Gaika has a place like a mother; Because like mother, she is the embodiment of affection. That is why Gopal made his name Gopal meaningful by starting his childhood with cow worship.
Cows were very dear to Gopal. He used to serve them very well. One day Lord Krishna said to his friends - 'Friends! There is no one in the world as helpful as a cow. She nourishes us like a mother by giving us milk, curd and ghee like nectar, hence she is worshiped and worshiped like a mother. Today is Gopashtami. We will decorate the cow very well with flowers and gems. We will offer him various types of dishes and worship him thoroughly with all the treatments. There is no greater virtue in the world than cow service and cow worship and there is no greater blessing from any god or sage than his blessings. Worship of cows is God-worship, the one who serves and worships them is free from the troubles of the world.
Nothing is rare. Therefore, today we will all express our gratitude to these affectionate cow-mothers by serving them for their infinite kindness. It was late due to Gopal's order that all the cowherds
Many types of flowers like marigold, Malti, Hibiscus, lotus etc. were piled up. All the people together decorated the cows in various ways, decorated them with different types of necklaces and flower garlands and tied sweet-sounding bells around their necks. Lord Shyamsundar himself decorated the cows and fed them various types of dishes. All the cows stood up quietly and accepted his worship and filled the cowherds' bags with their silent blessings in their hearts. At last Gopal along with all the cowherd boys accepted the remaining Prasad from the cows with great love.
Dressing up the singer Karavat at the door of Shyam Kharik. The neck fair necklace was decorated with horns in many ways. The bell's neck is covered with pearl plates on the back. Kinkini Nupur's feet are in constant progress. By this method, the beauty of Vraj cow's beauty increased immensely. Blissful Lord Dhenu, in all his attire, everyone is a fool. The beautiful form of Lord Krishna's cows and
Describing the adornment, Maharishi Gargaji writes: They resembled white mountains and were adorned with divine ornaments They were decorated with bells and chains and a network of bells They had golden horns and necklaces equal to gold.
That is, millions of beautiful cows are seen at every door there. Those cows are adorned with divine ornaments and appear like white mountains. Their bells and bells keep making melodious sounds. The horns of those cows adorned with red nets have been plated with gold. She wears golden necklaces and garlands. Radiance keeps emanating from his body parts.
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I have completed reading the word "you." I will keep you abreast of my progress.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
It is @Bharat Jhunjhunwala he quickly slaps a few words.
Read Kalyan
I look for and can't find in English
I learn I can use google lens even with pdf
I show.
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala response is "you can find in English"
No actually I couldn't find in English, I couldn't.
This is called quick slap a few words.
Picture a slap few words being told "Your born Christian"
I claim I'm not a Christian.
"You born Christian"
No I'm not a Christian - what is born?
Nothing no response.
Then later "read Kalyan."
I look up Kalyan and I couldn't find English, I could only find Hindi
I with excitement explore more how to use google lens and shown how, with realizing one can translate pdf
quick slap few words, "you can find it in English"
Through this type of slap words, I learn something extremely trouble some that actually bothered me, it was at a Christian forum, I saw with sadness Christians rejecting Christians and Christians rejecting Catholics, I watch with sadness these toxic few Christians destroying a catholic priest name Alice Linsley, I was emotionally shocked. I wasn't catholic and I wasn't Christian, I felt so many emotions, I shared to @Bharat Jhunjhunwala with deep sadness.
A slap response was, "this is the reasons why Christianity is declining, we must move on and leave them alone"
If I continue to share as I'm slower to move on as it takes me longer to process my emotions, I get the same slap, move on.
Now we're discussing about God and lesser gods.
Suddenly I see from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala born Hindu, new Christian, beliefs in Muslim,
I'm reading this.
Then I think I flood a thread, it's where I get fixated, but what am I fixated at.
I see words as a tool to help validate a person. I would use the word Christianity if it help me where the other person comprehends me. But if the word Christianity doesn't help the other person comprehend me why would I use that word Christianity for?
Here I'm watching the word Christianity and Muslim used in a way of no explanation other then for a measurements of what is in decline, from whom
Also words such as introvert is used, example tree focus on tree and lose site of forest, I don't want to reference, but it's further up in thread, also words such as personal is used, I'm more comfortable with personal relationship with Devine, @Bharat Jhunjhunwala is leaning towards the (forgot word) type of God that's not personal. Due to this is discussion I'm willing to dig into and analyze, even the words that's before me, example YHWH that's personal compared to Elohim that's not personal. However from @Ehav4Ever I learned the word Hashem nothing was mention here of yet Hashem
Is this an attack to @Bharat Jhunjhunwala no, I don't think so, do I lose it emotionally yes I do.
My most worries if flooding a thread, after I lost it emotionally, frustrations, with quick instructions such as read Kalyan as if who is Kalyan, and after I send a translation it's quickly passed up, not looked at, but just slapped with, you can find it in English.
Is that page important, well I notice the word worship, they claim they worship cows, an actual area where it shows this from the actual thing I'm brought attention to to read from. It's a good time to address this what is worship., perhaps I could had done so as I was planning on, however instead of me showing with in page 7., I became emotional. I'm calming down now. But what is the damage, perhaps I'll delete some of the extra posts.
PDF page 7
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River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Can you find this in English or I'll continue to translate it. I calm down my emotions are calm now
, I saw the word worship.,
What does that mean when they worship a cow or does the word Worship mean appreciate cow.
From language from one tribal through borrow loan words, could this had caused worry to some, as due to word worship.
I think they meant the word appreciation, appreciation what the cow offers them
Let me show English
Gopalak cow worship
Among the many purposes of God's incarnation, worship and protection of cows is also an important purpose, because all the gods reside inside the cows. The cow is divine.
Here's more
By singing and worshiping, all the gods are worshiped and their blessings are also obtained. In this world, Gaika has a place like a mother; Because like mother, she is the embodiment of affection. That is why Gopal made his name Gopal meaningful by starting his childhood with cow worship.
It explains singing and worshiping. What do you think, is this appreciating? Also it could be teaching as well.
I'll share more later, and if you want to see more in English here it is go to post
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Yes I'm planning on going through page 7 in this thread, slowly.
Oh what songs did they sing Gopalak cow worship
Let me go find I'll keep looking for but for now I found a Christian worshiping while milking a cow
, I saw the word worship.,
What does that mean when they worship a cow or does the word Worship mean appreciate cow.
From language from one tribal through borrow loan words, could this had caused worry to some, as due to word worship.
I think they meant the word appreciation, appreciation what the cow offers them
Let me show English
Gopalak cow worship
Among the many purposes of God's incarnation, worship and protection of cows is also an important purpose, because all the gods reside inside the cows. The cow is divine.
Here's more
By singing and worshiping, all the gods are worshiped and their blessings are also obtained. In this world, Gaika has a place like a mother; Because like mother, she is the embodiment of affection. That is why Gopal made his name Gopal meaningful by starting his childhood with cow worship.
It explains singing and worshiping. What do you think, is this appreciating? Also it could be teaching as well.
I'll share more later, and if you want to see more in English here it is go to post
#145
Yes I'm planning on going through page 7 in this thread, slowly.
Oh what songs did they sing Gopalak cow worship
Let me go find I'll keep looking for but for now I found a Christian worshiping while milking a cow
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