100 Reasons why Evolution is Stupid - Dr. Hovind

[I.S.L.A.M617]

A big problem is creationist like myself always get way too many conflicting answers to what evolution is. My definition alwways was "How the Heavens and Earth developed to what they are today". However I find that most say it doesnt even have to do with that and there is no book of science that is considered 100% correct so everytime we prove stuff in evolution blatently wrong supporters change their definitions and explanations.

And what have you proven to be blatantly (with an A, not an E) wrong?

 

[Warren Clark]

I am not in the science field but I found this book to be understandable. "Why Evolution Is True" by Jerry Coyne.

Posted this video somewhere else in this thread. =P I love it. Simple and easy to understand.
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[Windwalker]

A big problem is creationist like myself always get way too many conflicting answers to what evolution is.

Therein lays your entire problem. You are looking for answers in science, just as you are looking for answers in God. This is why I say you are a hair's-breadth away from flipping the coin and becoming an anti-religion atheist. Perhaps you will need to go that course before you learn. Hard to tell.

Science, nor religion, is about teaching you Answers with a capital A. Both are about creating road maps to help you navigate your way through life and understanding. None will give you or tell you answers so you don't have to do the work yourself. Science never claims Answers with a capital A, and only a sick and anemic version of religion does.

Again, you look outside yourself for these answers, out of your own fear. You want answers, look deep within. To do otherwise is to consign yourself to your own prison of fear.

 

[Warren Clark]

A big problem is creationist like myself always get way too many conflicting answers to what evolution is. My definition alwways was "How the Heavens and Earth developed to what they are today". However I find that most say it doesnt even have to do with that and there is no book of science that is considered 100% correct so everytime we prove stuff in evolution blatently wrong supporters change their definitions and explanations.

There are thousands of books by science that are 100% correct.
At least to our current best understanding of nature.
I mean sure, there will be changes to some of the text books in the future but that's because science never stops. Its all about repetitive testing non-stop.
The reason why evolution i considered a "fact" by most scientists is because it has stood up against scrupulous testing over and over for the last 150 years. yet it still stands firm with even more details now than ever before.

How the heavens and earth was developed has nothing to do with evolution.

 

[Dubio]

Do Jews take the story of exodus as an actual historical event??

I am not sure. Some scholars say that the Exodus story was not finalized in writing until around the 7th century BC and was a compilation of a number of traditions. One tradition had the Israelites cross the Reed Sea which was thought to be a marshy area. The Egyptian charriots got stuck in the muck. This version was apparently not exciting enough to make the final cut. There may be some actual historical elements in the story.

There are scholars who think stories like the Exodus and Joshua's conquest were written for the purpose of nation building and to create a pan-Israelite identity.

 

[Sculelos]

There are thousands of books by science that are 100% correct.
At least to our current best understanding of nature.
I mean sure, there will be changes to some of the text books in the future but that's because science never stops. Its all about repetitive testing non-stop.
The reason why evolution i considered a "fact" by most scientists is because it has stood up against scrupulous testing over and over for the last 150 years. yet it still stands firm with even more details now than ever before.

How the heavens and earth was developed has nothing to do with evolution.

I'd say if I am using Evolution as it's true mathematical structure implies which is this : Energy Acting as it wants to independent of what God want's it to then the theory of evolution is absolutely correct.

I'd say most people don't understand what God is so they reject the idea of God.

Most people don't even understand what evolution is sadly enough. Mankind could in the beginning shape-shift into whatever we desired but Satan tricked us into shape-shifting into Humans so that we would have a frontal lobe so that we would have the ability to follow our own desires. This is what mankind did and in doing such we were ashamed after we learned what we were so we used our power to bind all energy forms and cover everything with coverings and in this way we ourselves were covered with skin and this covering that we created started decaying.

Overall with what I know I'd say Evolution is absolutely true in light of it's real name and meaning, but is perverse in the way it's portrayed by mainstream science institutions.

Evolution is absolutely real and absolutely true but not even close to the idea that Darwin had perpetrated.

Some Truths that I have verified as true.

1. Mankind used to have the ability to shape-shift until he tasted of the Homosapien form which means in short, "Ability to think about thinking".

2. The plants in the Garden of Eden mutated changing DNA of Animals and Dinosaurs to form Dragons which started eating and killing people.

3. Mutation can't change DNA structure but it can change RNA structure and RNA functions, however most are simple changes like color or size variation. RNA has about a 25% chance of being inherited and this goes up to 50% if your father had the same condition.

4. Modern Earth is about 4,145 Years Old, this number is inflated by around 1.095 Million Times.

Overall I'd say ALL known factual evidence about evolution supports Biblical claims.

 

[Windwalker]

Mankind used to shape shift? Awesome. Where even in the Bible is that supported? After reading the last post, I'm not going to waste my time here. This is just nut-speak.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

I'd say if I am using Evolution as it's true mathematical structure implies which is this : Energy Acting as it wants to independent of what God want's it to then the theory of evolution is absolutely correct.

I'd say most people don't understand what God is so they reject the idea of God.

Most people don't even understand what evolution is sadly enough. Mankind could in the beginning shape-shift into whatever we desired but Satan tricked us into shape-shifting into Humans so that we would have a frontal lobe so that we would have the ability to follow our own desires. This is what mankind did and in doing such we were ashamed after we learned what we were so we used our power to bind all energy forms and cover everything with coverings and in this way we ourselves were covered with skin and this covering that we created started decaying.

Overall with what I know I'd say Evolution is absolutely true in light of it's real name and meaning, but is perverse in the way it's portrayed by mainstream science institutions.

Evolution is absolutely real and absolutely true but not even close to the idea that Darwin had perpetrated.

Some Truths that I have verified as true.

1. Mankind used to have the ability to shape-shift until he tasted of the Homosapien form which means in short, "Ability to think about thinking".

2. The plants in the Garden of Eden mutated changing DNA of Animals and Dinosaurs to form Dragons which started eating and killing people.

3. Mutation can't change DNA structure but it can change RNA structure and RNA functions, however most are simple changes like color or size variation. RNA has about a 25% chance of being inherited and this goes up to 50% if your father had the same condition.

4. Modern Earth is about 4,145 Years Old, this number is inflated by around 1.095 Million Times.

Overall I'd say ALL known factual evidence about evolution supports Biblical claims.

Dragons?... Word?

 

[Breathe]

I'd say if I am using Evolution as it's true mathematical structure implies which is this : Energy Acting as it wants to independent of what God want's it to then the theory of evolution is absolutely correct.

I'd say most people don't understand what God is so they reject the idea of God.

Most people don't even understand what evolution is sadly enough. Mankind could in the beginning shape-shift into whatever we desired but Satan tricked us into shape-shifting into Humans so that we would have a frontal lobe so that we would have the ability to follow our own desires. This is what mankind did and in doing such we were ashamed after we learned what we were so we used our power to bind all energy forms and cover everything with coverings and in this way we ourselves were covered with skin and this covering that we created started decaying.

Overall with what I know I'd say Evolution is absolutely true in light of it's real name and meaning, but is perverse in the way it's portrayed by mainstream science institutions.

Evolution is absolutely real and absolutely true but not even close to the idea that Darwin had perpetrated.

Some Truths that I have verified as true.

1. Mankind used to have the ability to shape-shift until he tasted of the Homosapien form which means in short, "Ability to think about thinking".

2. The plants in the Garden of Eden mutated changing DNA of Animals and Dinosaurs to form Dragons which started eating and killing people.

3. Mutation can't change DNA structure but it can change RNA structure and RNA functions, however most are simple changes like color or size variation. RNA has about a 25% chance of being inherited and this goes up to 50% if your father had the same condition.

4. Modern Earth is about 4,145 Years Old, this number is inflated by around 1.095 Million Times.

Overall I'd say ALL known factual evidence about evolution supports Biblical claims.

You're not even trying any more.

 

[Dubio]

I'd say if I am using Evolution as it's true mathematical structure implies which is this : Energy Acting as it wants to independent of what God want's it to then the theory of evolution is absolutely correct.

I'd say most people don't understand what God is so they reject the idea of God.

Most people don't even understand what evolution is sadly enough. Mankind could in the beginning shape-shift into whatever we desired but Satan tricked us into shape-shifting into Humans so that we would have a frontal lobe so that we would have the ability to follow our own desires. This is what mankind did and in doing such we were ashamed after we learned what we were so we used our power to bind all energy forms and cover everything with coverings and in this way we ourselves were covered with skin and this covering that we created started decaying.

Overall with what I know I'd say Evolution is absolutely true in light of it's real name and meaning, but is perverse in the way it's portrayed by mainstream science institutions.

Evolution is absolutely real and absolutely true but not even close to the idea that Darwin had perpetrated.

Some Truths that I have verified as true.

1. Mankind used to have the ability to shape-shift until he tasted of the Homosapien form which means in short, "Ability to think about thinking".

2. The plants in the Garden of Eden mutated changing DNA of Animals and Dinosaurs to form Dragons which started eating and killing people.

3. Mutation can't change DNA structure but it can change RNA structure and RNA functions, however most are simple changes like color or size variation. RNA has about a 25% chance of being inherited and this goes up to 50% if your father had the same condition.

4. Modern Earth is about 4,145 Years Old, this number is inflated by around 1.095 Million Times.

Overall I'd say ALL known factual evidence about evolution supports Biblical claims.

Then what does "Firmament above" in Genesis mean? There is no dome that separates the waters above from the land and sky below.

 

[Sculelos]

Mankind used to shape shift? Awesome. Where even in the Bible is that supported? After reading the last post, I'm not going to waste my time here. This is just nut-speak.

21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

This was not coats of skin like Animal furs like is commonly and stupidly believed by most but it was actually an actual covering of Skin. Indeed Adam named all the animals by becoming all the animals and naming them after how they acted. In fact the covering that Adam and Eve created for the Universe was how Satan told them that the Universe must behave for them to unlock the secret of Good and Evil.

Then what does "Firmament above" in Genesis mean? There is no dome that separates the waters above from the land and sky below.

The Firmament Above is the waters above, which is to say the Sea of Glass wherein the storehouse of Stars is.

The Firmament Below is the waters below, which is to say the Waters and layers of Earth below the Earth which Earth has 6 layers underneath the Ocean floors.

I could tell you what outer space is but Enoch said it better then I could.

CHAP. 18.—And I saw the repositories of all the winds, and I saw how he had
ornamented all the creation and the foundations of the earth with them. 2. And I saw the
corner-stone of the earth, and I saw the four winds which support the earth and the
firmament of the heavens. 3. And I saw how the winds expand the heights of the heavens;
and they remained between heaven and earth, and they are pillars of heaven. 4. And I saw
the winds which turn the heavens, which lead down the course of the sun and all the stars.
5. And I saw the winds upon the earth which carry the clouds, and I saw the paths of the
angels; I saw at the end of the earth the firmament of the heavens above. 6. And I proceeded
towards the south; and it burns day and night there where seven hills of precious stones are,
three towards the east, three towards the south. 7. But of those towards the east, one of
colored stone, one of pearls, and one of antimony; and those towards the south of red stone.
8. But the middle one reached up to heaven, like the throne of God, of alabaster, and the
summit of the throne of sapphire. 9. And I saw a burning fire which was in all the hills. 10.
And there I saw a place, beyond the great earth; there the waters collected. 11. And I saw
a great abyss in the earth, with columns of heavenly fire; and I saw among them columns of
heavenly fire, which fall. and are without number, either towards the height or towards the
depth. 12. And over that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of heaven above it,
and no foundation of earth beneath it, and no water above it, and no birds upon it; it was a
void place. 13. And there I saw a terrible thing: seven stars, like great burning mountains and
like spirits, that petitioned me. 14. The angel said: “This is the place of the consummation
of heaven and earth; it is a prison for the stars of heaven, and for the host of heaven. 15. And
the stars that roll over the fire are they who have transgressed the command of God before
their rising, because they did not come forth in their time. 16. And he was enraged at them,
and bound them till the time of the consummation of their sins in the year of the mystery.”

CHAP. 19.—And Uriel said to me: “Here will stand the souls of those angels who have
united themselves with women, and having assumed many different forms, have
contaminated mankind, and have led them astray so that they brought offerings to the
demons as to gods, namely on the day when the great judgment, on which they will be
judged, shall be consummated. 2. And their women having led astray the angels of heaven,
will be like their friends.” 3. And I, Enoch, alone saw this vision, the ends of all; and no man
has seen them as I have seen them.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If evolution is true, then how come grass is green? If I ever met an evolutionist who could answer this simple question I would probably poop my pants and sprout wings on my butt. HOW COME THE GRASS IS GREEN???

 

[Sculelos]

If evolution is true, then how come grass is green? If I ever met an evolutionist who could answer this simple question I would probably poop my pants and sprout wings on my butt. HOW COME THE GRASS IS GREEN???

Kendrake is that you...

Green is the color between dirt and water. The Sky is blue, black, white and red and orange.

 

[McBell]

HOW COME THE GRASS IS GREEN???

because it is not ripe yet.

 

[Ouroboros]

Evolution can't explain why the chicken crossed the road either! Maybe it's because God didn't make him a zebra!? I don't know! Therefore, Evolution is False!1!11!!

 

[fantome profane]

Here we go...

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100 reasons Kent Hovind is stupid -- Part 1 of 11 - YouTube

The "six kinds of evolution" is an interesting tactic that Kent uses. It allows him to say things like "I'm not against science". He wants to make it seem as though he does not reject science, he just rejects this one little thing called "evolution". But then when he defines what he means by "evolution" you realize that what he is rejecting is pretty much all of science, big bang, stellar formation, chemistry, geology, astronomy, the theory of relativity etc. And of course to be a young earth biblical literalist of the kind that Kent represents you need to reject all of science, not just the theory of evolution.

 

[Alceste]

The "six kinds of evolution" is an interesting tactic that Kent uses. It allows him to say things like "I'm not against science". He wants to make it seem as though he does not reject science, he just rejects this one little thing called "evolution". But then when he defines what he means by "evolution" you realize that what he is rejecting is pretty much all of science, big bang, stellar formation, chemistry, geology, astronomy, the theory of relativity etc. And of course to be a young earth biblical literalist of the kind that Kent represents you need to reject all of science, not just the theory of evolution.

Oh, were there six? I only listened to four before I had to go get drunk.

 

[McBell]

Evolution can't explain why the chicken crossed the road either! Maybe it's because God didn't make him a zebra!? I don't know! Therefore, Evolution is False!1!11!!

I for one would like to live in a world where a chicken can cross the road without her motives being scrutinized.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

I for one would like to live in a world where a chicken can cross the road without her motives being scrutinized.

If chickens wanted to be able to cross the road without scrutiny then they should have evolved themselves some rights.

 

[McBell]

If chickens wanted to be able to cross the road without scrutiny then they should have evolved themselves some rights.

Except evolution does not consciously make decisions on what changes will and will not take place.
Something so many people seem unable to understand.