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100 Reasons why Evolution is Stupid - Dr. Hovind

FranklinMichaelV.3

Well-Known Member
Except evolution does not consciously make decisions on what changes will and will not take place.
Something so many people seem unable to understand.

Sigh...that was a joke...no one gets my jokes on here *prepares to hang self*

It certainly doesn't and its why so many species have gone instinct. Under intelligent design, everything should have been able to survive because they would have been made optimal. Even if Death happened (due to accidents and predation) on an entire level, Death of an entire species due to an inability to adjust, would not.

*hangs self*
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
I found some of his videos in a thrift shop before and it provided a few hours of good entertainment. :D

I don't understand this notion that evolution will somehow disprove God or the Bible/any book with spiritual value. I'm a religious theist, but I absolutely love science and 100% think evolution is true. It doesn't take away anything from my practice. It anything, it helps me put things in perspective and makes me even more awe-atruck with just how vast everything is.
 

Monk Of Reason

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That makes sense and I do not disagree. But my stubbornness has little do do with anything that was "instilled in [me] as a child". I love Yeshua. Love is the only real thing. I don't think love can be learned. Love is love. Someone says you can love God and also believe God does not tell the truth. No you can't. I realize what God tells can be deciphered many ways, but in the end what you have is NEVER a lie.

If all life formed in primordial soup, like you say, then I cannot be in God's image because God, according to evolution, is nothing, and I am something. Nothing is not the image of something. Is it?
Actually it does but I won't press it any further.

As from a theistic position (I'm not a theist but I used to be) why would we have the audacity to assume that god was exactly like us? Why wouldn't it be perhaps more honest to assume that god is life? That our souls are what reflect his image rather than our bodies? Isn't our souls what is most important within the concept of god? The joke has been made of what race is god and such but such a trival thing seems silly. Even when I was religious I understood that to reflect god's image is not a physical but rather spiritual practice.

So comming from the primordial goop or more accurately the early earth chemicals wouldn't be a bad thing. Doesn't it say he made Adam from the earth? What could be a stronger scientific explination FOR gensis than learning we LITTERALLY come from the earth? If you accept that the world isn't 6k years old and that god didn't snap is fingers for creation then you are in a far better place to hold your religious views without being in direct conflict with science. I think you will feel better about your faith when you do that.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Actually it does but I won't press it any further.

As from a theistic position (I'm not a theist but I used to be) why would we have the audacity to assume that god was exactly like us? Why wouldn't it be perhaps more honest to assume that god is life? That our souls are what reflect his image rather than our bodies? Isn't our souls what is most important within the concept of god? The joke has been made of what race is god and such but such a trival thing seems silly. Even when I was religious I understood that to reflect god's image is not a physical but rather spiritual practice.

So comming from the primordial goop or more accurately the early earth chemicals wouldn't be a bad thing. Doesn't it say he made Adam from the earth? What could be a stronger scientific explination FOR gensis than learning we LITTERALLY come from the earth? If you accept that the world isn't 6k years old and that god didn't snap is fingers for creation then you are in a far better place to hold your religious views without being in direct conflict with science. I think you will feel better about your faith when you do that.

I accept that the earth isn't 6000 years young. And I accept that the one called Adam was not created by a snap of the fingers. Ah I feel so much better! Thank you thank you the Monk Of Reason. Thank you thank you Religious Forums. Is that the proper name for this place?
 

Monk Of Reason

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I accept that the earth isn't 6000 years young. And I accept that the one called Adam was not created by a snap of the fingers. Ah I feel so much better! Thank you thank you the Monk Of Reason. Thank you thank you Religious Forums. Is that the proper name for this place?
There are people who struggle with this. People who fight so hard against what we know to be true and their ideology. I find when people can accept science and still retain their faith then they at least feel better about the world around them. They are far less frustrated in forums like these where blatant fact stands against everything they believe.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There are people who struggle with this. People who fight so hard against what we know to be true and their ideology. I find when people can accept science and still retain their faith then they at least feel better about the world around them. They are far less frustrated in forums like these where blatant fact stands against everything they believe.

I agree. I think most things that are being fought about will never be proved for the benefit of most people. If it can never be proved, then who cares? I think forum should be fun.
 

Sculelos

Active Member
There are people who struggle with this. People who fight so hard against what we know to be true and their ideology. I find when people can accept science and still retain their faith then they at least feel better about the world around them. They are far less frustrated in forums like these where blatant fact stands against everything they believe.

I think Science supports my faith 99% of the time and usually if it doesn't it's not real science. (If you haven't guessed I don't really accept theoretical science as fact as I consider theoretical science more religion then science)
 

Warren Clark

Informer
If evolution is true, then how come grass is green? If I ever met an evolutionist who could answer this simple question I would probably poop my pants and sprout wings on my butt. HOW COME THE GRASS IS GREEN???

Actually biology already answered that question.

Why is Grass Green? | LiveScience

"Like many plants, most species of grass produce a bright pigment called chlorophyll. Chlorophyll absorbs blue light (high energy, short wavelengths) and red light (low energy, longer wavelengths) well, but mostly reflects green light, which accounts for your lawn's color.

But chlorophyll isn't just for eye candy. It also figures importantly in the process of photosynthesis, by which plants convert an inorganic material (light) into a useable, organic one (sugar). Chlorophyll molecules absorb quanta of light and transfer the energy to special molecules that can, when stimulated, fire off an electron that causes chemical changes in the plant. Further processes turn the chemical energy into sugar.

While grass can just sit there and grow, we poor animals have to hunt down our food, which may seem a trifle unfair by comparison. But then, the grass is always greener …"​
 

Monk Of Reason

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I agree. I think most things that are being fought about will never be proved for the benefit of most people. If it can never be proved, then who cares? I think forum should be fun.
The forum is mainly meant for fun but this particular forum has been created with the idea of exchange of ideas. Multiple faiths comming together for the sake of talking. This is the debate section and many people find debates fun. I personally do. There are DIR sections that are for people who want to discuss only their religion and then there are same faith debates where people debate within their own group.
:shrug:

I think Science supports my faith 99% of the time and usually if it doesn't it's not real science. (If you haven't guessed I don't really accept theoretical science as fact as I consider theoretical science more religion then science)
Don't worry sculelos most of us are very well versed in what you believe now.
 

Sculelos

Active Member
The forum is mainly meant for fun but this particular forum has been created with the idea of exchange of ideas. Multiple faiths comming together for the sake of talking. This is the debate section and many people find debates fun. I personally do. There are DIR sections that are for people who want to discuss only their religion and then there are same faith debates where people debate within their own group.
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Don't worry sculelos most of us are very well versed in what you believe now.

True, but at least you must remember that I do talk big but I also at least try to provide evidence to back my ideas even if it seems to be largely ignored I know there will always be lurkers who find it interesting.

Evidence is something that just don't get to you right away, you examine it at first and are like "Oh that's interesting" but then you forget about it and if it really was something that caught your interest you will think about it. When you think about it you will research more into it.

I don't know about everyone else but even though I seem a bit hard headed my beliefs about things do change over time even though I try to carefully consider and evaluate the things I say but I tend to go over so much stuff that I sometimes blindly do stupid things but I think that's the case of anyone who try's to put themselves out there to make a difference.
 
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