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100 Reasons why Evolution is Stupid - Dr. Hovind

savagewind

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Again, why do people of supposed faith need evolution to be wrong? What, pray tell me, is wrong with this? Anyone? Anyone?

Why do people of faith need evolution to be wrong? What do people of faith need to be wrong?

What is wrong with finding something to be wrong about?

Please reword your question to make sense, please.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
You did not watch the film. Variations in Kinds is called micro evolution by the science community. Micro evolution is a fact.

Show me the evolutionary scientist who talks of "kinds". And while you're at it, show me the scientists who distinguishes between microevolution and macroevolution.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I agree with the man as he says "don't call it science if you can't explain it". And guess what?....You will say it's NOT evolution. OMG. It is only what evolution NEEDS to work. Evolution needs a beginning. Evolution needs power. Explain the beginning. Tell us where the power came from.

Where did the power come from?


Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution.

But if life can change itself, and it factually does! it also makes sense, it could evolve itself "ON"
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Show me the evolutionary scientist who talks of "kinds". And while you're at it, show me the scientists who distinguishes between microevolution and macroevolution.

What's your point? It always tickles my fancy when the debater debates my side unintentionally. It's weird.
 

savagewind

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Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution.

But if life can change itself, and it factually does! it also makes sense, it could evolve itself "ON"

Right. The beginning of the life spark and the power required for life has nothing to do with the science of evolution. How smart you are!
 

outhouse

Atheistically
You did not watch the film. Variations in Kinds is called micro evolution by the science community. Micro evolution is a fact.

Micro evolution us often used by creationist to pervert the word "evolution"

And in context, micro evolution is just another name for evolution.



It might interest you that there is no debate about evolution anymore, its been over for a very long time. Creation has been outlawed from public schools for very good reasons, it not science of any shape or form.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Right. The beginning of the life spark and the power required for life has nothing to do with the science of evolution. How smart you are!

There is no such thing as life spark. We don't know that power was needed.

Energy stored in chemicals would be sufficient
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Micro evolution us often used by creationist to pervert the word "evolution"

And in context, micro evolution is just another name for evolution.



It might interest you that there is no debate about evolution anymore, its been over for a very long time. Creation has been outlawed from public schools for very good reasons, it not science of any shape or form.

Micro evolution is not another word for evolution. Evolution is the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms. Usually the developments are something new in the gene.

Micro evolution is a change in the organism of already existing genetic disposition.

Micro evolution is how scientists prove evolution.

Micro evolution is a fact with a whole lot of evidence.
Evolution is a theory with little or no real evidence.
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
Why do people of faith need evolution to be wrong? What do people of faith need to be wrong?

What is wrong with finding something to be wrong about?

Please reword your question to make sense, please.
I'm not sure the confusion here. I am referring to the science-deniers among those who claim faith. Those such as the OP who deny the validity of a well-established scientific theory. Why is their faith incapable of dealing with something like this? And since it clearly demonstrates it's not because of the sorts of nonsense that comes from the fraudulent science groups such as AoG, it screams the question, at least to me, what does faith exactly mean to them? Apparently it cannot withstand them needing to rethink their beliefs! And if so, is that faith, or idolatry?

Please answer this.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Those such as the OP who deny the validity of a well-established scientific theory
Do you listen to yourself? Well established theory? That's like saying popular opinion should rule.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
P.S. Please answer my question. Can your faith withstand the ToE being true? If not, which appears the case, why not?? Please answer me.
 

Monk Of Reason

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Do you listen to yourself? Well established theory? That's like saying popular opinion should rule.
Scientific theory and a layman theory are not the same thing. A theory as in a guess or hunch is not a scientific theory. The highest reguard any scientific fact can become is a well established theory.
 

savagewind

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Scientific theory and a layman theory are not the same thing. A theory as in a guess or hunch is not a scientific theory. The highest reguard any scientific fact can become is a well established theory.

The highest reguard? What is it?

Facts are well established. Theories are theories. Do you have a definition of theory that means fact?
 

Monk Of Reason

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The highest reguard? What is it?

Facts are well established. Theories are theories. Do you have a definition of theory that means fact?
A lot of people who are not deeply familiar with the way science works misunderstand the words they use. Theory is an explination of a phenomenon. A fact in science is when something gains so much evidence it becomes preverse to deny it. For example the fact that germs cause illness is just a theory. The fact that the earth rotates the sun and not the other way around is just a theory. Both of these are also facts.

Evolution has compiled so much evidence that it has becomes preverse to deny it. Generally it comes from ignorance, political bias or the most unfortunate, when its drilled into them as children so they are premanetly brainwashed to deny it.

The national academy also explains it well. Its a quick but good read on the subject.
Evolution Resources from the National Academies
 
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