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13 yo boy arrested for making threats to shoot up middle school in Florida

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Regardless of anything else I am glad this situation was brought to light and diffused before anyone was physically injured.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Thanks to this Governor, Florida is becoming one of the safest places in the US. It's a fact.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What are they going to do to him?

He just made a threat.

Lock him up forever?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
A thirteen year old boy has been arrested in Florida after making threats on-line about shooting people at a middle school.
Rebekah Jones' son arrested in Florida after allegedly threatening to shoot up school, stab students

There are several items that make this story more complex. The boy is the son of Rebekah Jones a prominent critic of Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Another aspect is that the boy is identified as autistic, but the details aren't clear about his condition.
Huh! Sounds like they are violating both of that child's 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A thirteen year old boy has been arrested in Florida after making threats on-line about shooting people at a middle school.
Rebekah Jones' son arrested in Florida after allegedly threatening to shoot up school, stab students

There are several items that make this story more complex. The boy is the son of Rebekah Jones a prominent critic of Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Another aspect is that the boy is identified as autistic, but the details aren't clear about his condition.
There's much info missing....
What is the father's opinion of DeSantis?
And he's home schooled...
Does that make kids dangerous?

Disclaimer:
Sarcasm.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I read this with some skepticism. Courts have a habit of taking what autistic people say wildly out of context, which is easy to do because people with autism don't always phrase things in the most obvious way. Their tone often comes across completely differently from how they meant it.

It's worth noting that apparently he was homeschooled at the time with no access to firearms, so shooting up the school might have just been an exaggerated expression of frustration and hopelessness rather than a real threat. It's clear he was suffering.

It seems more like a kid is being punished for speaking frankly about the thoughts he's struggling with, rather than getting him better care, based on a prior stereotype about autistic people being "school shooters" when most shooters have been antisocial, not autistic.

I don't mean to condemn efforts made to prevent shootings. This particular story just seems off to me.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, good that you acknowledge that it is complex.
I have never claimed the issue of school shootings was anything other than complex. Complex problems require comprehensive and complex solutions such as I have described. Complex issues cannot be solved with a simplistic solution. For example a simplistic approach of just "grab the guns" is inadequate.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I have never claimed the issue of school shootings was anything other than complex. Complex problems require comprehensive and complex solutions such as I have described. Complex issues cannot be solved with a simplistic solution. For example a simplistic approach of just "grab the guns" is inadequate.
"Grab the guns" is a misleading away to describe the recommendation for more stringent requirements and restrictions.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
"Grab the guns" is a misleading away to describe the recommendation for more stringent requirements and restrictions.
Hence the quotes I used. Since I wasn't talking about "more stringent requirements and restrictions" but something else it is sufficient.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I have never claimed the issue of school shootings was anything other than complex. Complex problems require comprehensive and complex solutions such as I have described. Complex issues cannot be solved with a simplistic solution. For example a simplistic approach of just "grab the guns" is inadequate.

Or put police in all schools.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Or train teachers. Offer teachers more pay to go through training.
Even if only five teachers out of twenty do the training... That's five trained people that's always there.

Offer the job to vets

I thought teachers weren't trusted these days?

And have you seen funding for schools?! We'd get trained by Barnie Fife.

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Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
It's worth noting that apparently he was homeschooled at the time with no access to firearms, so shooting up the school might have just been an exaggerated expression of frustration and hopelessness rather than a real threat. It's clear he was suffering.

If a threat assessment had been done, this seems like it would have been considered a transient threat.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
A thirteen year old boy has been arrested in Florida after making threats on-line about shooting people at a middle school.
Rebekah Jones' son arrested in Florida after allegedly threatening to shoot up school, stab students

There are several items that make this story more complex. The boy is the son of Rebekah Jones a prominent critic of Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Another aspect is that the boy is identified as autistic, but the details aren't clear about his condition.
Again, as we've seen you do many times before, all you are doing is picking & choosing which outrage you want to hype while ignoring the others.

The unfortunate reality is that outrage that affect our schools in general are a threat to all students and beyond, so maybe address that instead of being so selective.
 
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