2070 Christs glorious return

[atpollard]

The second coming happens when we ourselves BECOME the Christ FOR our Self...As always - for those with ears to hear..

So that would be a vote for "never"?

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

Atpollard; Yes - entirely correct - NEVER in THIS lifetime - for He said you can NOT achieve this fully in life - but only approach its realisation - prepare the Self for that which we call death - so that it will not shock and dismay us when it happens and the Soul is freed FULLY.. Even Yeshua HAD to die by necessity and planned events accordingly

Spiritual experiences happen indeed IN SPIRIT and NOT whilst trapped in the body - once free from this confine we see for sure that whcih we are truly and eternally..His teaching shows us this living truth in a most dynamic way - allows us to first encounter the eternal nature, baby steps so to speak - and then to begin to merge that nature with the mortal mind here in life - thus actually BECOMING the eternal nature and likewise preparing the Self for the FULL encounter of the "naked spiritual self" that will inevitably occur at death...Indeed the aim is to face this "judgement" whilst still alive - for it is a judgement OF lower self BY higher Self , for lack of better terms - and it IS Indeed inevitable...Check out all those NDE accounts - the classical "life review" is a VERY REAL PHENOMENA and if unprepared then trust me, it will confuse greatly just as He warns and you may end up losing the Self again (reincarnate).. KNOW they Self is always the key - come to this wisdom preferably, BEFORE it is thrust upon us at "death"

 

[e.r.m.]

The prophecy of Kemosloby. This is a theory that Christ will return to resurrect the dead in 2070 or shortly afterwards. Here is the basis of the theory and scriptural support.

Jesus stood in the temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and stated "tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up again" This statement had multiple meanings. The temple Jesus was standing in was a Temple of God, Jesus' body was a temple of God; And those who believe in Jesus are the body of Christ. Christs body was destroyed on the cross and in 3 days resurrected. He was resurrected early on the third day, already gone before anyone came to look the next morning. The temple of the Jews was destroyed in 70 ad by the Romans. This started the timer for the resurrection. Christ promised to return to resurrect his church, i.e. those who believe in him. "But do not let this one fact escape you, The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, he is patient not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentance, therefore let 1 day be 1000 years. 2 Peter 3:9; Some simple math says the third day is 2070-3070, and Christ said " I will come quickly like a thief in the night" So very shortly after 2070, paralleling the resurrection of Christ. Gone before morning.

Romans 6:5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.

The one good thing about this prediction is that is is the first one I've seen that is not about "your" immediate future, in fact not even in your lifetime, so it's not ego centric. Kudos.

Unfortunately, flaw #1. The timeline would be 2-3k years after Jesus's death, the after Rome destroyed the temple. The temple Jesus spoke of was his body.

Flaw #2, the resurrection he spoke of was his physical body, not the church.
Romans 8:34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died---more than that, who was raised to life---is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

John 2:21-22 But the temple he had spoken of was his body. [22] After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

This resurrection happened, past tense, already in the disciples' lifetime, not in our future, and no, there was no double meaning. meaning it was fulfilled and done. The Bible speaks of it as so, and never gave indication of something else.

 

[Kemosloby]

The one good thing about this prediction is that is is the first one I've seen that is not about "your" immediate future, in fact not even in your lifetime, so it's not ego centric. Kudos.

Unfortunately, flaw #1. The timeline would be 2-3k years after Jesus's death, the after Rome destroyed the temple. The temple Jesus spoke of was his body.

Flaw #2, the resurrection he spoke of was his physical body, not the church.
Romans 8:34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died---more than that, who was raised to life---is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

John 2:21-22 But the temple he had spoken of was his body. [22] After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

This resurrection happened, past tense, already in the disciples' lifetime, not in our future, and no, there was no double meaning. meaning it was fulfilled and done. The Bible speaks of it as so, and never gave indication of something else.

The bible speaks of our own resurrection. Indicates that it is along the same lines as Jesus resurrection. And gives clues that tie the two together. I don't deny jesus meant his own body was the temple and was raised on the third day. I'm saying it was a pattern for our own resurrection. I do not say that it is going to occur in 2070, but like the pattern, nobody knows the hour Jesus was resurrected from the tomb, we don't know when he is coming back. But between 2070 and 2570, Jesus was already gone by morning. Jesus said "I will come quickly", and why would he have stayed dead any longer than necessary to fullfill the 3 day prophecy? Therefore I say much close to 2070 than 2570.

 

[Onoma]

I heard he's coming " soon "

" chish " as they say

 

[e.r.m.]

The bible speaks of our own resurrection. Indicates that it is along the same lines as Jesus resurrection. And gives clues that tie the two together. I don't deny jesus meant his own body was the temple and was raised on the third day. I'm saying it was a pattern for our own resurrection. I do not say that it is going to occur in 2070, but like the pattern, nobody knows the hour Jesus was resurrected from the tomb, we don't know when he is coming back. But between 2070 and 2570, Jesus was already gone by morning. Jesus said "I will come quickly", and why would he have stayed dead any longer than necessary to fullfill the 3 day prophecy? Therefore I say much close to 2070 than 2570.

The bible speaks of our own resurrection. Indicates that it is along the same lines as Jesus resurrection. And gives clues that tie the two together.

Pray tell, where?

Also using the word clues, is already questionable, because you get into eye of the beholder territory. Do your clues climb above the fray?

 

[Kemosloby]

The bible speaks of our own resurrection. Indicates that it is along the same lines as Jesus resurrection. And gives clues that tie the two together.

Pray tell, where?

Also using the word clues, is already questionable, because you get into eye of the beholder territory. Do your clues climb above the fray?

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. Romans 6:5

1 cor 15 gets fairly involved in the resurrection, and talks about Jesus' resurrection as if side by side with our own. It gives an impression, perhaps is a better word than clue.

 

[e.r.m.]

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. Romans 6:5

1 cor 15 gets fairly involved in the resurrection, and talks about Jesus' resurrection as if side by side with our own. It gives an impression, perhaps is a better word than clue.

Good scriptures.
But you don't make a strong enough case to link Jesus's 3rd day with 2 or 3,000 years.

 

[Kemosloby]

Good scriptures.
But you don't make a strong enough case to link Jesus's 3rd day with 2 or 3,000 years.

I don't know how much stronger they could get than saying the lord is not slow at keeping his promise, with the Lord a day is like 1000 years and 1000 years like a day. 2 Peter 3:9

 

[e.r.m.]

I don't know how much stronger they could get than saying the lord is not slow at keeping his promise, with the Lord a day is like 1000 years and 1000 years like a day. 2 Peter 3:9

I agree with you. They may not be able to get stronger than this argument. As it stands, it's a weak argument. The Bible authors did not connect this to Jesus's three days. You can't assume this for them. They have to make the case themselves.

 

[Kemosloby]

I agree with you. They may not be able to get stronger than this argument. As it stands as a weak argument. The Bible authors did not connect this to Jesus's three days. You can't assume this for them. They have to make the case themselves.

But they did. The promise Jesus made is our resurrection. So when they say the Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, ties it directly to the resurrection.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Could you point to where Jesus said that, my word search found no exact match and I would like to see it in context.

Where does Jesus say "some of you yet living"?

I'm thinking Luke 21:32.

 

[e.r.m.]

I'm thinking Luke 21:32.

Luke 9:27.

 

[e.r.m.]

But they did. The promise Jesus made is our resurrection. So when they say the Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, ties it directly to the resurrection.

You can't avoid the issue with word play. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise ties to our resurrection, not to Jesus's. There's no Bible author who ties Jesus's "destroy this temple...." and "There Lord is not slow in keeping his promise" rapture comment together in the same thought. A Bible author would have to tie these together directly in written scripture, and they don't.

 

[Kemosloby]

You can't avoid the issue with word play. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise ties to our resurrection, not to Jesus's. There's no Bible author who that ties Jesus's "destroy this temple...." and "There Lord is not slow in keeping his promise" rapture comment together in the same thought. A Bible author would have to tie these together directly in written several scripture, and they don't.

Well Jesus faulted the Pharisees for being "stiff necked" and not figuring things out, that were not spelled out for them. Otherwise perhaps they would have believed him.

 

[Kemosloby]

You can't avoid the issue with word play. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise ties to our resurrection, not to Jesus's. There's no Bible author who that ties Jesus's "destroy this temple...." and "There Lord is not slow in keeping his promise" rapture comment together in the same thought. A Bible author would have to tie these together directly in written several scripture, and they don't.

The link is "the body of Christ" Jesus calls his church the body of Christ. Which ties the church's resurrection to the resurrection of Jesus. All three are linked together, Jesus' body, the temple and the body of Christ.

 

[e.r.m.]

The link is "the body of Christ" Jesus calls his church the body of Christ. Which ties the church's resurrection to the resurrection of Jesus. All three are linked together, Jesus' body, the temple and the body of Christ.

Again, the Bible authors did not make this same connection in their writings. Without there written explicit confirmation, there is no connection.

 

[Kemosloby]

Again, the Bible authors did not make this same connection in their writings. Without there written explicit confirmation, there is no connection.

Do they make a written explicit confirmation that everything must have a written explicit confirmation, or do they say "what we see are puzzling reflections as in a mirror"

 

[e.r.m.]

Well Jesus faulted the Pharisees for being "stiff necked" and not figuring things out, that were not spelled out for them. Otherwise perhaps they would have believed him.

Jesus confirmed his divinity and authority. Jesus did not confirm the connection you guys are making.

 

[Milton Platt]

The prophecy of Kemosloby. This is a theory that Christ will return to resurrect the dead in 2070 or shortly afterwards. Here is the basis of the theory and scriptural support.

Jesus stood in the temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and stated "tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up again" This statement had multiple meanings. The temple Jesus was standing in was a Temple of God, Jesus' body was a temple of God; And those who believe in Jesus are the body of Christ. Christs body was destroyed on the cross and in 3 days resurrected. He was resurrected early on the third day, already gone before anyone came to look the next morning. The temple of the Jews was destroyed in 70 ad by the Romans. This started the timer for the resurrection. Christ promised to return to resurrect his church, i.e. those who believe in him. "But do not let this one fact escape you, The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, he is patient not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentance, therefore let 1 day be 1000 years. 2 Peter 3:9; Some simple math says the third day is 2070-3070, and Christ said " I will come quickly like a thief in the night" So very shortly after 2070, paralleling the resurrection of Christ. Gone before morning.

Romans 6:5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.

Whatever happened to "no man knoweth the hour"?