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30,000 feet of water?????

Curious#1

New Member
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.
 

Curious#1

New Member
I can accept that , kinda already felt that way. it's just that everywhere I turn it's all I see and I don't understand it. I've read several different religions texts and watched documentaries going back to the Anunaki , and there was never a single "god" until Christianity. Some even predate Christianity itself. I'm 51 years old and have become more spiritual than religious. If I was to fall into one classification the closest one would be Drudic.
I'm also curious if anybody thought about these things and more before.
There's just to much that don't make sense to me.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.
God lowered the mountains.
They became mere hills.
And afterwards, he re-inflated the mountains,
& flushed the excess water away.
 
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Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I can accept that , kinda already felt that way. it's just that everywhere I turn it's all I see and I don't understand it. I've read several different religions texts and watched documentaries going back to the Anunaki , and there was never a single "god" until Christianity. Some even predate Christianity itself. I'm 51 years old and have become more spiritual than religious. If I was to fall into one classification the closest one would be Drudic.
I'm also curious if anybody thought about these things and more before.
There's just to much that don't make sense to me.
There are lots of debates about the global flood, including several that have risen and receded here like the tides. In order to cover the entire earth and all its land features, it would require over 600 cubic miles or more of extra water that has no known source.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There are lots of debates about the global flood, including several that have risen and receded here like the tides. In order to cover the entire earth and all its land features, it would require over 600 cubic miles or more of extra water that has no known source.
It would have to be far far more than a mere 600 cubic
miles. Earth's area is nearly 200,000,000 square miles.
Mt Everest is 5.5 miles above sea level. So God would
need to add over 1,100,000,000 cubic miles of water.
Easy peasy when one has omnipotence & magic.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.
Well, it's all true, innit?
I know this because I've seen Kevin Costner in WaterWorld, and he had even developed gills.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Welcome to the forums!

There is a lot in the Bible that doesn’t seem to make sense, the flood being one of the more atrocious ones
 
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Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The flood story just does not work if one reads the Bible literally. The evidence against it is so strong that when one insists that there was a flood one is also insisting that God is a liar. It also fails morally. God would have had to have killed countless innocents. The problem with appealing to magic is that there would appear to be other solutions that were not so pointlessly evil and cruel that would be far easier.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
My thought is that the flood was only a local event which is certainly believable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The flood story just does not work if one reads the Bible literally. The evidence against it is so strong that when one insists that there was a flood one is also insisting that God is a liar. It also fails morally. God would have had to have killed countless innocents. The problem with appealing to magic is that there would appear to be other solutions that were not so pointlessly evil and cruel that would be far easier.
God's cruelty is easily explained as working "in mysterious ways".
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Doesn't it say that water came from under the ground as well? We had a Flat Earth thread that had a diagram with the Earth sandwiched between two areas of water, above and below. That is how the Bible describes it. The water just drained away under the ground. Somewhere there is a gigantic bath plug that covers the hole. It has to be under an ocean as we haven't discovered it yet. If we do find it, DO NOT MESS WITH IT.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.
Even if it could happen in that brief amount of time the atmospheric pressure would have boiled Noah and the animals in the ark alive like lobsters.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I think the problems occur when people try to make sense of a mythical story by using factual analysis instead of using symbolic analysis.

There is a myth about George Washington that claims that he never told a lie and that he threw a dollar coin over a mile, across the Delaware River. Now, factually, these are both extremely unlikely and therefor unbelievable. This does not mean that the existence of George Washington is extremely unlikely or unbelievable. Which is what we might surmise if we assess this mythical story on a purely factual level. However, what if we assess the mythical story based on the myth being symbolic? Then we might surmise that George Washington was notably honest, and notably strong. Which is, of course, much more understandable and believable.

Most mythical stories begin with actual people and/or events, but then become morphed and exaggerated factually to provide the proper symbolism for the message the story is intended to carry. Once we understand this, then we can stop trying to analyze the story based on the facts it's presenting to us and instead, we can focus on the message those symbols mean to convey.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people around these days that have a lot of trouble doing that, as they have no training or practice at interpreting symbolism. And of course when we are discussing religious mythology, we will have a lot of people that don't want to recognize the symbolism so they can denigrate the stories on the basis of the absurd facts: ignoring the symbolic message all together.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I've always been curious about the great flood story in the Bible.
Supposedly God flooded the earth with a rainstorm for 40 days and nights.
That does not jive with me for several reasons.....
Mt. Everest is the highest natural point on earth and over 29,000 feet. The flood supposedly covered the entire earth with enough water to kill everything and everyone including the Nepheliem which were reported to be giants.
That means 30,000 feet just came and went from nowhere. There is not enough water on earth to provide that much rain.
Then the earth was repopulated by only 8 people that were one family ( Noah sons and wives ) which would mean that not only would our current civilization would be based on incest but there would only be one race on the entire planet.( not meant as racism!!!!!!) Apparently this is not true which makes me even more suspicious especially after finding out the holy Bible has been edited as early as 1875 or 1877 AD...this is the first time the words "God" and "Lord" were ever in the bible.

I think were looking at 720 feet of water per day, doable? Nah
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Most mythical stories begin with actual people and/or events, but then become morphed and exaggerated factually to provide the proper symbolism for the message the story is intended to carry. Once we understand this, then we can stop trying to analyze the story based on the facts it's presenting to us and instead, we can focus on the message those symbols mean to convey.

I totally agree. On then other hand, this kind of "debunking" usually follows some fundamentalist claiming that the bible story is factually true. I personally have no trouble accepting the story as mythological, and also guessing that it might have been based on a real, but local, flood.
 
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