4 creatures creat (or evolute) new creature?

[Godobeyer]

[FONT=&quot]maybe many people don't feel or notice that , we are just a combine of sprem and egg in other hand a result of instinct .[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]HOW do you believe that the combine between the sprem and egg is evolution ,NOT creation?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and HOW do you believe that the period of the baby inside his mother (the 9 months), is evolution NOT creation ?[/FONT]


so the male and female , sprem and egg are four creatures ,they creat or evolute NEW creature "babe" ?



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[gnostic]

Try reading a book on evolutionary biology and understand the biological mechanisms on evolution, before you even considering debating against evolution. Otherwise you're just make a fool of yourself because you don't even understand simple biology.

Evolution is about biological changes, not merely about reproduction. Changes that are made by environmental factors, like geographical terrains, climates, availability of food supply, availability of partners, etc. Changes are often very small, unnoticeable till some numbers of generations (unless we talking about bacteria or viruses, but since you brought up egg-sperm reproduction then we are not talking about viruses or bacteria).

 

[ImmortalFlame]

HOW do you believe that the combine between the sprem and egg is evolution ,NOT creation?

It's neither. It's reproduction.

and HOW do you believe that the period of the baby inside his mother (the 9 months), is evolution NOT creation ?

Again, it's neither. It's reproduction.

so the male and female , sprem and egg are four creatures ,they creat or evolute NEW creature "babe" ?

Babies aren't "evolved", they are a result of biological replication.

I strongly suggest you read up more on what evolution actually is.

 

[Jainarayan]

ITT me <> this:

 

[LuisDantas]

I'm afraid that you are indeed failing at understanding what is described as evolution, Godobeyer.

 

[Kerr]

[FONT=&quot]maybe many people don't feel or notice that , we are just a combine of sprem and egg in other hand a result of instinct .[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]HOW do you believe that the combine between the sprem and egg is evolution ,NOT creation?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and HOW do you believe that the period of the baby inside his mother (the 9 months), is evolution NOT creation ?[/FONT]


so the male and female , sprem and egg are four creatures ,they creat or evolute NEW creature "babe" ?

The sperm and egg combine to a new life. To do that we need a man and a woman. Then the baby grows until its born. I am unsure of what that has to do with evolution or creation. Its reproduction. For a more detailed explanation I would suggest reading a biology book. Come to think of it, I should probably do that as well to refresh my memory, lol.

 

[Godobeyer]

The sperm and egg combine to a new life. To do that we need a man and a woman. Then the baby grows until its born. I am unsure of what that has to do with evolution or creation. Its reproduction. For a more detailed explanation I would suggest reading a biology book. Come to think of it, I should probably do that as well to refresh my memory, lol.

it's easy to write it , or spell it "COMBINE "

but who tell the sperm and egg if they combine they would creat new life ? it's not this a miracle ? it's random test .

 

[Valjean]

Not a miracle in the usual sense of a violation of physical laws, Godobeyer. Sperm swim. It's what they do. They find the ovum and penetrate it. Natural selection "designed" them to do this.

I currently have an ant problem. If I drop a bit of food anywhere in the kitchen ants will find it. I could put some on the ceiling and they'd find it.
Is this a miracle?

The bottom layer of water in a lake conforms perfectly to the shape of the lake bottom. Does the water plan this? Is it intelligent? Is some outside intelligence consciously arranging the water molecules to fit?
A miracle? The hand of God?

A billiard ball bounces off the side of the pool table at exactly the same angle it hit. How does it calculate this? Does God help? Is it another miracle?

Just because a process is complicated or you don't understand it or it involves many small steps doesn't make it miraculous. It's just physics -- or the product of the accumulated small natural modifications of evolution.

The sperm and egg don't know they're creating new life. They're just parts in the machine, so to speak.

 

[Breathe]

A baby being formed:

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0 - 9 months baby formation inside tummy.. - YouTube


I can see how you could make the mistake of thinking it's evolution, my friend, but it isn't quite right. It may be worth studying what evolution teaches (many "anti-evolution" sites and authors speak of evolution, but they require misconceptions, distortions, and flat out lies to continue). If you would like, many here would be willing to give you a basic rundown or to send you to a website.

 

[Secret Chief]

I phoned a plumber up last week and he turned up when he said he would. Now that IS a miracle.

 

[Breathe]

I phoned a plumber up last week and he turned up when he said he would. Now that IS a miracle.

Wow... that really IS a miracle.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wow... that really IS a miracle.

No, it is common for contractors to show up on time.
But when they finish a job on schedule, that is a miracle!
(Miracles are so misunderstood by lay people.)

 

[gnostic]

I think godobeyer believe that the god is directing traffics, because each sperm has a GPS, so it wouldn't get lost in the uterus.

Though some sperms would still get lost because of faulty GPS, or poor satellite signal, or the sperms decided to take a shortcut. But I think the most likely problem, is that the sperms don't understand the GPS's Arabic voice...everybody know that all sperms can only understand Cantonese.

 

[fantome profane]

[FONT=&quot]maybe many people don't feel or notice that , we are just a combine of sprem and egg in other hand a result of instinct .[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]HOW do you believe that the combine between the sprem and egg is evolution ,NOT creation?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and HOW do you believe that the period of the baby inside his mother (the 9 months), is evolution NOT creation ?[/FONT]


so the male and female , sprem and egg are four creatures ,they creat or evolute NEW creature "babe" ?

Argument by semantics, and not even a good one.

 

[Ouroboros]

[FONT=&quot]maybe many people don't feel or notice that , we are just a combine of sprem and egg in other hand a result of instinct .

That's a weird way of saying it, but okay. The truth is that nature is natural. It's an axiom of reality that reality is real and nature is natural. We are biological creatures. It's obvious from the biological science. Perhaps our mind, consciousness, etc is something more than just biology or physics, but that doesn't undo or deny the fact that we are also very much biological and natural. It's not like we're walking around with a supernatural glow around us or that we can transfer our minds in and out of our brains. We are very much strongly tied to this body that needs inorganic and organic dead material as diet to survive. Our body needs sugar, water, electrolytes, minerals, and even about 10,000 (or more) different kinds of external bio-microbes that will help us digest food and even control moods.

HOW do you believe that the combine between the sprem and egg is evolution ,NOT creation?

Combination of sperm and ova is not evolution. Reproduction is part of evolutionary theory, but sperm and ova is only one expression of one single point in the whole theory.

And how do we know that sperm and egg produce offspring? By research, science, facts, photos, evidence, material artifacts, and so on. We KNOW because that is TRUE.

and HOW do you believe that the period of the baby inside his mother (the 9 months), is evolution NOT creation ?

That is not evolution either. It's gestation. And how? Again, by science, research, etc. We know because we know because we know. It's proven beyond belief. It's a fact of life. Gestation do happen. You said it yourself, 9 months inside the mother. How would you know THAT unless it's self-evidence from real life experience and knowledge?

so the male and female , sprem and egg are four creatures ,they creat or evolute NEW creature "babe" ?

Not quite. Mutations can happen during the gestation (in mitosis), but most genetic mutation that will have a huge change to the offspring would happen before, during the meiosis, i.e. in the ova or sperm, or even before that. Gestation isn't evolution. It's only production of a reproduced offspring.

 

[gnostic]

"9-month" is only an average.

Some are born a little earlier, and some a little later than 9 months.

 

[Kerr]

it's easy to write it , or spell it "COMBINE "

but who tell the sperm and egg if they combine they would creat new life ? it's not this a miracle ? it's random test .

Not sure what you mean, but no one has to tell the sperm and egg to do anything. They do what they do because they are "programmed" to. Some would view that as a miracle and I can understand why. But I would say its a miracle in the religious sense of the word.

 

[Godobeyer]

Not sure what you mean, but no one has to tell the sperm and egg to do anything. They do what they do because they are "programmed" to. Some would view that as a miracle and I can understand why. But I would say its a miracle in the religious sense of the word.

it's too easy for you ???programmed !!! who programmed it to make new live !!!

I want to ask you a question ,
the sprem is made/result of creation (by the name of God ) .
or it's made by evolution ?

to understand me more :
the sex member of the male is creat OR evolut the sprem ?

 

[Kerr]

it's too easy for you ???programmed !!! who programmed it to make new live !!!

No one. I put the word "programmed" in quotation marks for that particular reason.

I want to ask you a question ,
the sprem is made/result of creation (by the name of God ) .
or it's made by evolution ?

to understand me more :
the sex member of the male is creat OR evolut the sprem ?

I would say its "made" by evolution, though I am not sure how accurate that is. Evolution isnt a creator, it has no intent and no plan, its a process that at its core has to do with cause and effect. How sperm or the egg evolved I do not know, nor do I know of any theories about it (not that interested at this time).

 

[Valjean]

It's "made by evolution," of course, Godobeyer.
Why would you think otherwise? What other reasonable explanation is there?

"God did it!" is not a reasonable explanation, it's an assertion of magic.