4 Killed In Israel Terrorist Attack

[FearGod]

And he should stop paying their families stipends.

And Israel should revenge by destroying their family houses.
Did you say Abbas pays stipends to their families? from where did you get this information?

 

[Godobeyer]

And Israel should revenge by destroying their (Arabs) family houses.
Did you say Abbas pays stipends to their families? from where did you get this information?

Just correction

 

[Aquitaine]

I could creat a thread,but I don't want, tell you why ?

Because crimes of Israel and oppression toward Arabs and Muslims is incomparable. drop in an ocean.

My concern is about non-Jews and non-Muslims members in RF, some member always post threads pro-Israel, ignore the crimes of Israel !

I'm merely pointing out your bias here.

 

[Godobeyer]

I'm merely pointing out your bias here.

The bias it's self call me bias lol

I mean when the last time you post a thread criticize Israel for their crimes, or condemn Israel for it's oppression and racist toward Arabs ?

 

[Aquitaine]

The bias it's self call me bias lol

I mean when the last time you post a thread criticize Israel for their crimes, or condemn Israel for it's oppression and racist toward Arabs ?

I very rarely create threads, though I have criticised Israel on RF before, most noticeably when the
IDF shelled 3 UNRWA buildings in the Palestinian territories.
I also - after new information on the subject was made public - changed my opinion on the Hebron execution.
I can criticise both sides, you on the other hand seem incapable of doing so.

 

[metis]

And Israel should revenge by destroying their family houses.
Did you say Abbas pays stipends to their families? from where did you get this information?

First of all, the latter item has been common knowledge for a long time, and the monies used came from primarily three sources: Iran, the Saudis, and Egypt, although the latter is no longer doing that, the last time I read anything on it.

Secondly, these murderers do not operate alone as if they were just isolated criminals so, yes, there are responsibilities that go beyond just that one person in these cases.

 

[rosends]

And Israel should revenge by destroying their family houses.
Did you say Abbas pays stipends to their families? from where did you get this information?

A source with a collection of quotes and facts
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=1005

 

[FearGod]

A source with a collection of quotes and facts
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=1005

Not interested, thank you

 

[rosends]

Not interested, thank you

Don't ask for sources for claims if you aren't interested in sources for claims.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/tel-av...nmen-a-salary-from-the-palestinian-authority/

 

[FearGod]

Don't ask for sources for claims if you aren't interested in sources for claims.

Your issue is nonsense and waste of time, good luck

 

[Godobeyer]

I very rarely create threads, though I have criticised Israel on RF before, most noticeably when the
IDF shelled 3 UNRWA buildings in the Palestinian territories.
I also - after new information on the subject was made public - changed my opinion on the Hebron execution.
I can criticise both sides, you on the other hand seem incapable of doing so.

I criticized both of them everytime, but I blame more Israel because of it's unjustice and oppression toward Arabs , especially in WB and Gaza .

I can creat thread, because I believe that the main reason of voilence of the Palestinians is oppression of Israel.
I mean the voilence of Palestinians is consequence of oppression and racist of Israel.

 

[Kapyong]

Gday all,

A shocking crime, I hear they caught the culprits quickly, I'm sure they will be charged and no doubt found guilty.

But even with the attackers in custody, I see Netanyahu said -
" We will attack the attackers" and "take decisive action" and
“ We discussed a series of offensive and defensive steps that we will take in order to act against this serious phenomenon of shootings "
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-vows-decisive-response-to-tel-aviv-attack/

The Israeli response has included :

• Cancelling 83,000 Palestinian passes (during Ramadan) in illegal collective punishment
• Deciding to "more quickly" demolish the family home of attackers in more illegal collective punishment
• Surrounding both of those family homes (not sure if they have been demolished yet)
  
• Deciding to withhold the bodies of dead Palestinians from the families, in yet more illegal collective punishment
• Moving two more battalions of troops to the West Bank (about 600 soldiers)

I hope this does not escalate like things did in Gaza in 2014,
when the deaths of three Israelis lead to the Israeli army invading Gaza and killing thousands of Palestinians, mostly civilians, including over 500 children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel–Gaza_conflict


Kapyong

 

[Aquitaine]

I criticized both of them everytime,

I disagree with you here: I never see you create a thread criticising a Palestinian.
When Palestinians have clearly been at fault, I have observed you ignoring their blame and even arguing that it's some sort of western/zionist media conspiracy - for example the thread with the two Palestinian knife-wielding boys.

but I blame more Israel because of it's unjustice and oppression toward Arabs , especially in WB and Gaza .

Yes: Israel's actions are significantly more severe, though that may simply just be because they have enormously greater military capabilities. If the Palestinians had equal or greater military strength, would Israel even exist?

I can creat thread, because I believe that the main reason of voilence of the Palestinians is oppression of Israel.
I mean the voilence of Palestinians is consequence of oppression and racist of Israel.

Whilst that may be true to a significant degree, it doesn't explain things like Palestinian refusal for a two-state solution.

 

[Godobeyer]

I disagree with you here: I never see you create a thread criticising a Palestinian.
When Palestinians have clearly been at fault, I have observed you ignoring their blame and even arguing that it's some sort of western/zionist media conspiracy - for example the thread with the two Palestinian knife-wielding boys.

I meant ,I criticizing by reply .
I would not creat thread to criticize a Palestinian since the main problem is Israel oppression and racist.

Yes: Israel's actions are significantly more severe, though that may simply just be because they have enormously greater military capabilities. If the Palestinians had equal or greater military strength, would Israel even exist?

Is destiny of the Palestinians to live forever under oppression and occupation ?

So Israel should be exist by racist and oppression and unjustice,over the blood/bodies of people ?

I am with independent of Palestinians, so if both want to make peace,so it's ok , if they don't let seperate them.
everyone is free.

Whilst that may be true to a significant degree, it doesn't explain things like Palestinian refusal for a two-state solution.

Sorry this is not true. on contrary, the opposite is true.
I always heard that Israel which refuse two-state solution because they want to steal WB land .

 

[Aquitaine]

I meant ,I criticizing by reply .
I would not creat thread to criticize a Palestinian

To be honest I haven't really seen you do either of these two things.

since the main problem is Israel oppression and racist.

Which leads to your Pro-Palestinian bias that I was talking about earlier.

Is destiny of the Palestinians to live forever under oppression and occupation ?

So Israel should be exist by racist and oppression and unjustice,over the blood/bodies of people ?

No.
Also, as I asked earlier: what would happen to Israel if the Palestinians had greater military capabilities than the Israelis?

I am with independent of Palestinians, so if both want to make peace,so it's ok , if they don't let seperate them.
everyone is free.

Agreed.

Sorry this is not true. on contrary, the opposite is true.
I always heard that Israel which refuse two-state solution because they want to steal WB land .

Both sides appear to have stalled progress on a two-state solution. Though my point still stands.

 

[Godobeyer]

To be honest I haven't really seen you do either of these two things.

Ok,no problem

it's happend in this thread Thursday at 7:44 AM#6

Which leads to your Pro-Palestinian bias that I was talking about earlier.

I bias to whom suffering more.

No.
Also, as I asked earlier: what would happen to Israel if the Palestinians had greater military capabilities than the Israelis?

They were , Jews were living between Arabs under Ottoman empire with no such idea, who is stronger becomes oppression to minority or depend what you religion you have !!

I don't agree with idea of whom stronger is right one,it's oppression and racist is justify.

Agreed.

Ok

Both sides appear to have stalled progress on a two-state solution. Though my point still stands.

I suspect on Israeli because of settlements in WB,steal more Palestinians lands.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ent-activity-occupied-palestinian-territories

 

[Kapyong]

Gday all,

We saw recently that Israel has no intention of allowing a two state solution.
Netanyahu said specifically he would never support it.
Likud does not support it.
Israeli leaders openly say there will never be a Palestinian state.

Which is terrible, considering the facts of history :

• Palestine was known by name as early as the 5th century BC in Herodotus, and is found on Ptolemy's map from the time of the Gospels.
• By the 1800s it had firmly established borders and a population of about 3/4 million (but no central govt.)
• During the late 1800s the Zionists started buying up land in Palestine.
• By 1917 it was clear the Zionists wanted the land of Palestine (Britain betrayed the Arabs and promised it to the Zionists.)
• The horror of WW2 brought things to a head concerning a home-land for the Jews.
• The Zionists started planning the capture of Palestine as early as 1945.
• The Zionists had purchased about 8% of Palestinian land by 1947.
• In 1947 the UN announced a PLAN to give much of Palestine to the Zionists.
• The Palestinians and Arabs rejected the plan to give away their best land.
• The Zionists secretly shipped arms into Palestine.
• Civil war broke out, there were battles and atrocities.
• The Zionists started taking Palestinian land by force as early as December 1947.
• Everyone could see a war over the land of Palestine was coming.
• On 14th May 1948 the Zionists declared they owned the land by fiat.
• On 15th May the Arabs declared they would fight to defend Palestine.
• They battled for about 10 months over the land of Palestine.
• About 700,000 local Palestinians were forced from their homes.
• Israel won, the Arabs lost - and the land was re-named 'Israel'.
• The Palestinians still want their land back, and try to fight back.
• Israel continues to gobble up Palestine - only about 12% remains any more.

(Readers should note that the pro-Israelis refuse to even discuss those facts.)

Israel invaded and captured Palestine by force.

But the myths of Israeli propaganda are erasing the facts,
just like Israel is erasing Palestine.

Now the pro-Israelis blame the VICTIM for DARING to fight back for the freedom of their OWN land.
Israel is erasing Palestine, massacring Palestinians, and blaming the Palestinians for it !


Myth : The Arabs attacked innocent Israel who only defended themselves.
Fact : The Zionists INVADED Palestine, the Arabs tried to defend it but lost.

Myth : Israel gained the territory in a defensive war. (Really? How?)
Fact : The Zionists invaded and captured the land by force and ethnic cleansing.

Myth : Israeli violence is justified because Hamas wants to annihilate Israel.
Fact : Israel is ACTUALLY annihilating Palestine, and Hamas wants them gone.

Myth : The Palestinians abandoned their homes willingly (giving them up to anybody who came along?)
Fact : Civilians left a war zone in fear, intending to come back after the successful battle.

Myth : There was no such thing as 'Palestine', so it was OK for the Zionists to take the land.
Fact : Palestine had borders, history, homes and towns and roads and orchards - and almost a million PEOPLE !


It's Holocaust 2.0


Kapyong

 

[Kapyong]

Gday all,

Israeli Leaders Vow Revenge after Tel Aviv Attack
http://imemc.org/article/israeli-le...video/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

After those murders in Tel Aviv, Israel plans to take "revenge".

"Smotrich called on the Israeli defense minister to carry out extrajudicial executions of Hamas leaders."
​

Got that ?
The response to the murder of four Israelis will be to murder some more Palestinians.

That's how Zionist thinking works :

• Palestinians killing Israelis is un-provoked terrorism
• Israelis killing Palestinians is justice

What an evil fantasy.

Of course, if some of the family of the new innocent Palestinian murder victims were to dare to seek revenge on Israelis - then that would be another un-provoked terror attack requiring even more reprisals against Palestinians.

It is crystal clear folks -

Israelis believe Jewish lives are worth more than Palestinian lives.
"A million arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail."

Israel is erasing and gobbling Palestine,
and massacring and murdering and kidnapping and torturing even children.

An Israeli medic executes a wounded helpless man with a shot to the head - and 82% of Israelis agree with the execution because the medic was just doing his job - executing Palestinians. Kill them all ! said an Israeli sign in support.

Israelis call their victims 'terrorists' to justify their murders - even un-armed boys and girls.
As well as 'beasts' and 'animals' and 'cockroaches' and 'crocodiles'.

Israeli soldiers kidnap Palestinian children in the middle of the night - imprison them, often torture them, sometimes sexually abuse them or even use them as human shields.

Israeli snipers murder Palestinian children for sport.


It's Holocaust 2.0


Kapyong